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I’ll oppose ordination of female bishops, says John Goddard

Chorley Citizen: Bishop of Burnley John Goddard Bishop of Burnley John Goddard

AN East Lancashire bishop says he will vote against the ordination of female bishops ‘in conscience’ today.

Bishop of Burnley John Goddard, who retires on Saturday, is in York ahead of the vote on whether to allow women to become bishops.

Bishop Goddard joins Bishop of Blackburn Julian Henderson at the General Synod, the Church of England’s ruling body, ahead of the vote today.

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Bishop Goddard said: “In conscience I will be voting against the measure. I do not believe it is right for women to be made bishops in the Church of England as it further fractures the church. However, I feel that it is very likely and I can see no reason at all why it will not go through.

“Archbishop Rowan Williams said if your conscience was opposed to the ordination of women bishops, your obedience to God required you to vote against it. I do pledge that whatever decision is made I will work with those who support the ordination of women.

“I believe in unity in diversity. That means that we can disagree fundamentally but we can still work together in the name of God.”

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby yesterday said he expected the vote to be in favour and said there was a ‘good chance’ the first female bishop would be ordained by 2015.

A previous attempt to allow women to become bishops failed in 2012, when the General Synod voted against the move.

It is now more than 20 years since women were first allowed to become priests.

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9:34am Mon 14 Jul 14

mavrick says...

Time to retire, The church is moving on. what gives you the right to think that you as a man have more rights to wear fancy frocks than any woman.
At the end of it all you are human beings and no better than anyone else. It will just take people from all religions to realise it is a personal choice and not one for the masses. Islam is an outdated faith which seems to oppress women in particular although this will be disputed. so the best way is to ban all organised religions and let the individual decide. but of course money may have some sway in this.
Time to retire, The church is moving on. what gives you the right to think that you as a man have more rights to wear fancy frocks than any woman. At the end of it all you are human beings and no better than anyone else. It will just take people from all religions to realise it is a personal choice and not one for the masses. Islam is an outdated faith which seems to oppress women in particular although this will be disputed. so the best way is to ban all organised religions and let the individual decide. but of course money may have some sway in this. mavrick
  • Score: 14

10:15am Mon 14 Jul 14

Norm de Plume says...

Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible.
Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible. Norm de Plume
  • Score: 10

10:22am Mon 14 Jul 14

Siouxsie-Jan says...

I hope the next Bishop of Burnley is a little more enlightened than Bishop Goddard. We, as a community, need to be looking forward, not backward. In fact, keep your preaching for the pulpit (or whatever) and this goes for ALL religions!
I hope the next Bishop of Burnley is a little more enlightened than Bishop Goddard. We, as a community, need to be looking forward, not backward. In fact, keep your preaching for the pulpit (or whatever) and this goes for ALL religions! Siouxsie-Jan
  • Score: 11

11:06am Mon 14 Jul 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Norm de Plume wrote:
Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible.
i do agree with you - but wherever you go in the world, including remote tribes - the people always worship a god(s) of some description.

i think it is a way of trying to explain the unexplainable
[quote][p][bold]Norm de Plume[/bold] wrote: Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible.[/p][/quote]i do agree with you - but wherever you go in the world, including remote tribes - the people always worship a god(s) of some description. i think it is a way of trying to explain the unexplainable hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 5

12:45pm Mon 14 Jul 14

rudis_dad says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Norm de Plume wrote:
Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible.
i do agree with you - but wherever you go in the world, including remote tribes - the people always worship a god(s) of some description.

i think it is a way of trying to explain the unexplainable
No, it's a way of keeping the impressionable and feeble-minded under control.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norm de Plume[/bold] wrote: Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible.[/p][/quote]i do agree with you - but wherever you go in the world, including remote tribes - the people always worship a god(s) of some description. i think it is a way of trying to explain the unexplainable[/p][/quote]No, it's a way of keeping the impressionable and feeble-minded under control. rudis_dad
  • Score: 9

1:10pm Mon 14 Jul 14

greenscreener says...

rudis_dad wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
Norm de Plume wrote:
Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible.
i do agree with you - but wherever you go in the world, including remote tribes - the people always worship a god(s) of some description.

i think it is a way of trying to explain the unexplainable
No, it's a way of keeping the impressionable and feeble-minded under control.
It's just a pity that so many people have died because they chose the 'wrong' imaginary friend.
[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norm de Plume[/bold] wrote: Faith is the illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable and impossible.[/p][/quote]i do agree with you - but wherever you go in the world, including remote tribes - the people always worship a god(s) of some description. i think it is a way of trying to explain the unexplainable[/p][/quote]No, it's a way of keeping the impressionable and feeble-minded under control.[/p][/quote]It's just a pity that so many people have died because they chose the 'wrong' imaginary friend. greenscreener
  • Score: 10

1:20pm Mon 14 Jul 14

vicn1956 says...

When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice! vicn1956
  • Score: -12

2:42pm Mon 14 Jul 14

greenscreener says...

vicn1956 wrote:
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
So which God is it then ? They can't all be right ? Or do you each get the one you believe in ?
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice![/p][/quote]So which God is it then ? They can't all be right ? Or do you each get the one you believe in ? greenscreener
  • Score: 7

3:05pm Mon 14 Jul 14

GracesDad says...

vicn1956 wrote:
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
I'll believe in God if he brings back dinosaurs.
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice![/p][/quote]I'll believe in God if he brings back dinosaurs. GracesDad
  • Score: 9

3:17pm Mon 14 Jul 14

hasslem hasslem says...

vicn1956 wrote:
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
So going to confession is a total waste of time then?
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice![/p][/quote]So going to confession is a total waste of time then? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 4

4:11pm Mon 14 Jul 14

333333 says...

People either believe in three letters or they don't believe in those three letters. Atheists don't believe in three letters. We only know anything about life and being alive when the heart hears that one unique message that makes our heart alive. If it happened when the heart wasn't feeling alive it wasn't real it was unreal. The message is real. It's a message that makes the heart real and this message, unlike any other form of language or information can make whatever it touches real.

Until and unless the heart of a person is made to feel real, then the person themselves are not actually real and nothing else done is real.

You cannot be made to feel guilty about what you did in the coma that exists between your birth and your death. All that is unreal. All that is perishable is unreal and will perish. The only account of anything to be judged is that moment in which your heart, on hearing the message, could feel real.

There is nothing to confess and no one to confess to for whatever was done in the coma between your birth and your death, just as the actions and thoughts or deeds of any person who is unconscious, in a coma, or in a dream, are not weighed by anyone or in any way made significant to anyone, good or bad.

No judgement or expectation, or judger, has ever been made for the coma between birth and death which you once found yourself in.
People either believe in three letters or they don't believe in those three letters. Atheists don't believe in three letters. We only know anything about life and being alive when the heart hears that one unique message that makes our heart alive. If it happened when the heart wasn't feeling alive it wasn't real it was unreal. The message is real. It's a message that makes the heart real and this message, unlike any other form of language or information can make whatever it touches real. Until and unless the heart of a person is made to feel real, then the person themselves are not actually real and nothing else done is real. You cannot be made to feel guilty about what you did in the coma that exists between your birth and your death. All that is unreal. All that is perishable is unreal and will perish. The only account of anything to be judged is that moment in which your heart, on hearing the message, could feel real. There is nothing to confess and no one to confess to for whatever was done in the coma between your birth and your death, just as the actions and thoughts or deeds of any person who is unconscious, in a coma, or in a dream, are not weighed by anyone or in any way made significant to anyone, good or bad. No judgement or expectation, or judger, has ever been made for the coma between birth and death which you once found yourself in. 333333
  • Score: -7

4:19pm Mon 14 Jul 14

GracesDad says...

333333 wrote:
People either believe in three letters or they don't believe in those three letters. Atheists don't believe in three letters. We only know anything about life and being alive when the heart hears that one unique message that makes our heart alive. If it happened when the heart wasn't feeling alive it wasn't real it was unreal. The message is real. It's a message that makes the heart real and this message, unlike any other form of language or information can make whatever it touches real.

Until and unless the heart of a person is made to feel real, then the person themselves are not actually real and nothing else done is real.

You cannot be made to feel guilty about what you did in the coma that exists between your birth and your death. All that is unreal. All that is perishable is unreal and will perish. The only account of anything to be judged is that moment in which your heart, on hearing the message, could feel real.

There is nothing to confess and no one to confess to for whatever was done in the coma between your birth and your death, just as the actions and thoughts or deeds of any person who is unconscious, in a coma, or in a dream, are not weighed by anyone or in any way made significant to anyone, good or bad.

No judgement or expectation, or judger, has ever been made for the coma between birth and death which you once found yourself in.
What the actual f#*k is that all about?????
[quote][p][bold]333333[/bold] wrote: People either believe in three letters or they don't believe in those three letters. Atheists don't believe in three letters. We only know anything about life and being alive when the heart hears that one unique message that makes our heart alive. If it happened when the heart wasn't feeling alive it wasn't real it was unreal. The message is real. It's a message that makes the heart real and this message, unlike any other form of language or information can make whatever it touches real. Until and unless the heart of a person is made to feel real, then the person themselves are not actually real and nothing else done is real. You cannot be made to feel guilty about what you did in the coma that exists between your birth and your death. All that is unreal. All that is perishable is unreal and will perish. The only account of anything to be judged is that moment in which your heart, on hearing the message, could feel real. There is nothing to confess and no one to confess to for whatever was done in the coma between your birth and your death, just as the actions and thoughts or deeds of any person who is unconscious, in a coma, or in a dream, are not weighed by anyone or in any way made significant to anyone, good or bad. No judgement or expectation, or judger, has ever been made for the coma between birth and death which you once found yourself in.[/p][/quote]What the actual f#*k is that all about????? GracesDad
  • Score: 8

4:22pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Graham Hartley says...

vicn1956 wrote:
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
vic is quite earnest enough to do my believing for me, like Douglas Adams' Electric Monk. The deluxe model of the Electric Monk was capable of believing things they wouldn't believe in Salt Lake City.

Here, vic uses a device known elsewhere as Pascal's Wager. Curiously, belief in God is proposed as prudent - to avoid unpleasant consequences - rather than sincere. Sincerity, honesty, kindness and the rest are sold at a discount to believing. God promotes belief in Him above other worthy characteristics.
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice![/p][/quote]vic is quite earnest enough to do my believing for me, like Douglas Adams' Electric Monk. The deluxe model of the Electric Monk was capable of believing things they wouldn't believe in Salt Lake City. Here, vic uses a device known elsewhere as Pascal's Wager. Curiously, belief in God is proposed as prudent - to avoid unpleasant consequences - rather than sincere. Sincerity, honesty, kindness and the rest are sold at a discount to believing. God promotes belief in Him above other worthy characteristics. Graham Hartley
  • Score: 5

4:22pm Mon 14 Jul 14

333333 says...

Unless that one message that makes your heart fulfil is recieved. Until you are the recipient of that message. Nothing real has ever been accomplished by man or G.o.d.
Unless that one message that makes your heart fulfil is recieved. Until you are the recipient of that message. Nothing real has ever been accomplished by man or G.o.d. 333333
  • Score: -2

4:27pm Mon 14 Jul 14

rudis_dad says...

GracesDad wrote:
333333 wrote:
People either believe in three letters or they don't believe in those three letters. Atheists don't believe in three letters. We only know anything about life and being alive when the heart hears that one unique message that makes our heart alive. If it happened when the heart wasn't feeling alive it wasn't real it was unreal. The message is real. It's a message that makes the heart real and this message, unlike any other form of language or information can make whatever it touches real.

Until and unless the heart of a person is made to feel real, then the person themselves are not actually real and nothing else done is real.

You cannot be made to feel guilty about what you did in the coma that exists between your birth and your death. All that is unreal. All that is perishable is unreal and will perish. The only account of anything to be judged is that moment in which your heart, on hearing the message, could feel real.

There is nothing to confess and no one to confess to for whatever was done in the coma between your birth and your death, just as the actions and thoughts or deeds of any person who is unconscious, in a coma, or in a dream, are not weighed by anyone or in any way made significant to anyone, good or bad.

No judgement or expectation, or judger, has ever been made for the coma between birth and death which you once found yourself in.
What the actual f#*k is that all about?????
In the words of Captain Edmund Blackadder - "Wibble!"
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]333333[/bold] wrote: People either believe in three letters or they don't believe in those three letters. Atheists don't believe in three letters. We only know anything about life and being alive when the heart hears that one unique message that makes our heart alive. If it happened when the heart wasn't feeling alive it wasn't real it was unreal. The message is real. It's a message that makes the heart real and this message, unlike any other form of language or information can make whatever it touches real. Until and unless the heart of a person is made to feel real, then the person themselves are not actually real and nothing else done is real. You cannot be made to feel guilty about what you did in the coma that exists between your birth and your death. All that is unreal. All that is perishable is unreal and will perish. The only account of anything to be judged is that moment in which your heart, on hearing the message, could feel real. There is nothing to confess and no one to confess to for whatever was done in the coma between your birth and your death, just as the actions and thoughts or deeds of any person who is unconscious, in a coma, or in a dream, are not weighed by anyone or in any way made significant to anyone, good or bad. No judgement or expectation, or judger, has ever been made for the coma between birth and death which you once found yourself in.[/p][/quote]What the actual f#*k is that all about?????[/p][/quote]In the words of Captain Edmund Blackadder - "Wibble!" rudis_dad
  • Score: 5

4:39pm Mon 14 Jul 14

333333 says...

Graham,

There are plenty of brahmins you can pay to say the right prayers that they claim will work for you both before and after your death, but there is only one person, one kindness, one entity or being, that can deliver a message that can make your heart.
Graham, There are plenty of brahmins you can pay to say the right prayers that they claim will work for you both before and after your death, but there is only one person, one kindness, one entity or being, that can deliver a message that can make your heart. 333333
  • Score: -5

4:40pm Mon 14 Jul 14

333333 says...

The heart needs a message that is alive before it can feel alive.
The heart needs a message that is alive before it can feel alive. 333333
  • Score: -5

5:09pm Mon 14 Jul 14

zulu_sotv says...

Back to the dark ages for this denizen.
No surprise to see Christianity on the wane.
Back to the dark ages for this denizen. No surprise to see Christianity on the wane. zulu_sotv
  • Score: 4

6:20pm Mon 14 Jul 14

VamboMarbleEye says...

Religion... it's a bit **** isn't it?
Religion... it's a bit **** isn't it? VamboMarbleEye
  • Score: 4

11:33pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Excluded again says...

vicn1956 wrote:
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
But which God? Imagine following Allah all your life to find that Shiva was the one true god all along.

Anyone who truly understands these things knows that the only true god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Those who ignore His manifest goodness and wisdom are sent to a hell where they will never know pasta again. Nice thought? Or not nice?
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice![/p][/quote]But which God? Imagine following Allah all your life to find that Shiva was the one true god all along. Anyone who truly understands these things knows that the only true god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Those who ignore His manifest goodness and wisdom are sent to a hell where they will never know pasta again. Nice thought? Or not nice? Excluded again
  • Score: 5

12:44am Tue 15 Jul 14

Openminded? says...

And then they accuse Islam being backwards and having an inability to treat women equally.

Lol
And then they accuse Islam being backwards and having an inability to treat women equally. Lol Openminded?
  • Score: 3

7:08am Tue 15 Jul 14

BuckoTheMoose says...

vicn1956 wrote:
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
I'll take my chances thanks.
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice![/p][/quote]I'll take my chances thanks. BuckoTheMoose
  • Score: 4

9:07am Tue 15 Jul 14

greenscreener says...

Excluded again wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right.
But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one.
And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice!
But which God? Imagine following Allah all your life to find that Shiva was the one true god all along.

Anyone who truly understands these things knows that the only true god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Those who ignore His manifest goodness and wisdom are sent to a hell where they will never know pasta again. Nice thought? Or not nice?
I agree, that's point I made earlier...... Personally I follow the Greek god Dionysus, the Romans called him Bacchus, it's my way of using Pascal's wager to get invited to the best party ever! Nice thought.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: When we die and there's no God the unbelievers in God are right. But if there is a God? Ooops! You won't talk your way out of that one. And no he won't just let you in because he is a loving God. He's told us and you've rejected Him. Also the people who pay lip service to Him and do bad things won't get in either. So you'll share a place with them and all evildoers too! Nice thought. Or-not nice![/p][/quote]But which God? Imagine following Allah all your life to find that Shiva was the one true god all along. Anyone who truly understands these things knows that the only true god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Those who ignore His manifest goodness and wisdom are sent to a hell where they will never know pasta again. Nice thought? Or not nice?[/p][/quote]I agree, that's point I made earlier...... Personally I follow the Greek god Dionysus, the Romans called him Bacchus, it's my way of using Pascal's wager to get invited to the best party ever! Nice thought. greenscreener
  • Score: 4

10:10am Tue 15 Jul 14

vicn1956 says...

Put your trust in what you want. But you can't pick and choose on that day!
Put your trust in what you want. But you can't pick and choose on that day! vicn1956
  • Score: -5

10:23am Tue 15 Jul 14

vicn1956 says...

hassle
going to confession- the bible tells us the curtain is removed-there is no longer a barrier to God-we can speak direct. There is no mediator. Confession is good for the soul they say-but having to use a church official? Do you do what the bible says or priests? So keep short accounts-directly.
hassle going to confession- the bible tells us the curtain is removed-there is no longer a barrier to God-we can speak direct. There is no mediator. Confession is good for the soul they say-but having to use a church official? Do you do what the bible says or priests? So keep short accounts-directly. vicn1956
  • Score: -1

12:32pm Tue 15 Jul 14

333333 says...

The message of life is higher than any promise, rule, regulation or manual on God. Belief has caused BIG problems between people on Earth. It's our own life, we need to make peace with not the concepts of God we inherited from our forefathers.

Why would you book a meal or a holiday, or expect a promotion - after you die? Why leave real happiness for you, until after you die when you can fulfil your heart - before you die and enter heaven - before you die.

Mortality happens when we doubt our own life's immortality. When we doubt our own immortality, we become deluded by the illusion of mortality and we defer and deny our selves from understanding the value of our own immortality while we are here.

If women want the right to spread the same nonsense, I won't stand in their way.
The message of life is higher than any promise, rule, regulation or manual on God. Belief has caused BIG problems between people on Earth. It's our own life, we need to make peace with not the concepts of God we inherited from our forefathers. Why would you book a meal or a holiday, or expect a promotion - after you die? Why leave real happiness for you, until after you die when you can fulfil your heart - before you die and enter heaven - before you die. Mortality happens when we doubt our own life's immortality. When we doubt our own immortality, we become deluded by the illusion of mortality and we defer and deny our selves from understanding the value of our own immortality while we are here. If women want the right to spread the same nonsense, I won't stand in their way. 333333
  • Score: -2

1:27pm Tue 15 Jul 14

333333 says...

The moment you have is immortal. It's message is immortal. In a world of constant changes you have exactly the same moment today that you had when came here on the first day. The moment you have has not changed and although you may have changed over the years it's message to you has not changed. It's the same message. The message of this moment is eternal and not subject to change. It does not change, even when you change, it does not change. If you are looking for anything that exists forever, you will not find it by delving into the dark ages of a time gone by or in a time yet to come.

Once upon your innocence when you were very young, you made a promise. It wasn't an ordinary promise. Ordinary promises are breakable and also, it wasn't the sort of promise you can make to someone else. There wasn't even anything contractual about this promise.

The promises you can make to others can all be broken but this was a different type and order of promise altogether. This one promise you made was so unlike any other type of promise and there is only one message, you can get that will fulfil that promise for you.

The message of life is alive. It is the ONLY message you can get that is alive, the only message that is acually 'living'. It is the only message that can make your human heart fulfil.

Living without understanding this message is not living. It's struggling to make sense of an unfulfilling life with an unfulfilling heart which must be troubling at best and a living hell at worst.

It doesn't matter how many God's and other causes we serve and fear. Whatever team you are on, you only have one little heart to fulfil.
The moment you have is immortal. It's message is immortal. In a world of constant changes you have exactly the same moment today that you had when came here on the first day. The moment you have has not changed and although you may have changed over the years it's message to you has not changed. It's the same message. The message of this moment is eternal and not subject to change. It does not change, even when you change, it does not change. If you are looking for anything that exists forever, you will not find it by delving into the dark ages of a time gone by or in a time yet to come. Once upon your innocence when you were very young, you made a promise. It wasn't an ordinary promise. Ordinary promises are breakable and also, it wasn't the sort of promise you can make to someone else. There wasn't even anything contractual about this promise. The promises you can make to others can all be broken but this was a different type and order of promise altogether. This one promise you made was so unlike any other type of promise and there is only one message, you can get that will fulfil that promise for you. The message of life is alive. It is the ONLY message you can get that is alive, the only message that is acually 'living'. It is the only message that can make your human heart fulfil. Living without understanding this message is not living. It's struggling to make sense of an unfulfilling life with an unfulfilling heart which must be troubling at best and a living hell at worst. It doesn't matter how many God's and other causes we serve and fear. Whatever team you are on, you only have one little heart to fulfil. 333333
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1:37pm Tue 15 Jul 14

333333 says...

Just ask your own heart how it feels about the prospect of immortality and then listen to the answer it gives to you while you are here.
Just ask your own heart how it feels about the prospect of immortality and then listen to the answer it gives to you while you are here. 333333
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5:04pm Tue 15 Jul 14

greenscreener says...

333333 wrote:
Just ask your own heart how it feels about the prospect of immortality and then listen to the answer it gives to you while you are here.
I don't want immortality if it means consorting with you, I've got your number, 666, your promises are deceitful, your intentions are evil.
[quote][p][bold]333333[/bold] wrote: Just ask your own heart how it feels about the prospect of immortality and then listen to the answer it gives to you while you are here.[/p][/quote]I don't want immortality if it means consorting with you, I've got your number, 666, your promises are deceitful, your intentions are evil. greenscreener
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