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Immigrants to UK should learn English, say East Lancs community leaders

Chorley Citizen: A survey shows that 95per cent of people think being British means you must speak the native language well A survey shows that 95per cent of people think being British means you must speak the native language well

EAST Lancashire community and political leaders believe people coming to live in the UK should learn English.

They were responding to a survey showing that 95 per cent of people think being British means you must speak the native language well.

Burnley Liberal Democrat MP Gordon Birtwistle and Blackburn with Darwen Tory councillor Mike Lee believe it is essential for immigrants to have a good grasp of English – for themselves as much as their new country.

Lancashire Council of Mosques chairman Abdul Hamid Qureshi said it was desirable, but not a requirement.

The British Social Attitudes survey found 95per cent agreed it was important to speak English to be British, up from 86per cent in 2003.

The proportion who think someone should have lived in Britain for most of their life to be British was 77per cent, up from 69 per cent ten years ago.

Some 74per cent agreed it was important to be born in the UK to be British.

Neither Mr Birtwistle, Coun Lee, or Mr Qureshi believed being born, or having lived in the UK for years, was important.

The 2011 census revealed that in Blackburn with Darwen 7.1per cent of homes (4,063) have no-one who speaks English as a main language; in Pendle 3.7per cent of households (1,385) have no main English speaker; while the figure for Burnley and Hyndburn is 2.7per cent (1,031 and 920 respectively), against the national 4.3per cent average.

In Ribble Valley, 0.6per cent of households (153) have no main English speaker, compared with 9.9per cent (272) in Rossendale.

People who want to settle permanently in the UK, or become citizens, have to pass a basic English test.

Temporary residents do not need to show a grasp of the language, Mr Qureshi said: “English is a beautiful language which people should learn. I enc-ourage my children to speak the best English they can.

“It should not be a requirement of living here.

“Being British is about other things like freedom, tolerance, and caring for others.”

Mr Birtwistle said: “I think speaking English is essential for the individual’s own good. Being born here, or how long you have lived here, is irrelevant.”

Coun Lee said: “I think people who come to Britain should learn English, other-wise they become isolated.

“How long you have lived here does not affect your ‘Britishness’.”

 

Do you think you need to speak English to be considered truly British?

 

Yes. The foreigners that do come here should learn English if they don’t already speak it. If they ask to stay, they should have to go on a course to learn the language.

Andrew Cass, 47, Darwen

 

Yes. In India you have to speak the local language, and in France you need to speak French, so here they should be able to speak English.

Ebrahim Sidat, 43, Blackburn

 

No. If people are born here, then it doesn’t matter what language they speak, they are British.

Corey Gibson, 17, Blackburn

 

Yes. I think people should speak the language, and I also think English people should make more of an effort to speak foreign languages when they go abroad.

Simon Cullen, 32, Blackburn

 

No. You can’t say what is truly British as this country was built on different cultures, and the English language derives from many different languages.

Akash Ahmed, 17, Blackburn

 

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10:01am Wed 18 Jun 14

Commenting says...

The majority of those unable to speak English are the women and of course with the primary duty for child care, young children starting school do not have English as their first language. Education is the answer but not necessarily for the women, but for the men.
Muslim men generally insist that their womenfolk remain in the home or the locality mixing only with other women of the same ethnic group.
English must be a prerequisite of entry into the country, any subsequent nationality request and any entitlement to benefits.
The majority of those unable to speak English are the women and of course with the primary duty for child care, young children starting school do not have English as their first language. Education is the answer but not necessarily for the women, but for the men. Muslim men generally insist that their womenfolk remain in the home or the locality mixing only with other women of the same ethnic group. English must be a prerequisite of entry into the country, any subsequent nationality request and any entitlement to benefits. Commenting
  • Score: 22

10:01am Wed 18 Jun 14

woolywords says...

About time something is done about this, as I've been saying this about the Scots, for years.
Still, once they get independence, we can deport them all, so may not have to spend taxes on teaching them to speak English at all..
About time something is done about this, as I've been saying this about the Scots, for years. Still, once they get independence, we can deport them all, so may not have to spend taxes on teaching them to speak English at all.. woolywords
  • Score: 14

10:11am Wed 18 Jun 14

Excluded again says...

I have some friends in North wales who would beg to differ. They think anyone moving into their area should learn Welsh if they only speak English
I have some friends in North wales who would beg to differ. They think anyone moving into their area should learn Welsh if they only speak English Excluded again
  • Score: 12

10:20am Wed 18 Jun 14

woolywords says...

Excluded again wrote:
I have some friends in North wales who would beg to differ. They think anyone moving into their area should learn Welsh if they only speak English
Gymraeg yn iaith Prydeinig gwreiddiol, fel bod llawer o eiriau yn ymddangos yn Saesneg ond mae'r Alban yn siarad Gaeleg, sy'n tafod dramor!!!
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: I have some friends in North wales who would beg to differ. They think anyone moving into their area should learn Welsh if they only speak English[/p][/quote]Gymraeg yn iaith Prydeinig gwreiddiol, fel bod llawer o eiriau yn ymddangos yn Saesneg ond mae'r Alban yn siarad Gaeleg, sy'n tafod dramor!!! woolywords
  • Score: -15

11:04am Wed 18 Jun 14

caballo says...

woolywords wrote:
Excluded again wrote: I have some friends in North wales who would beg to differ. They think anyone moving into their area should learn Welsh if they only speak English
Gymraeg yn iaith Prydeinig gwreiddiol, fel bod llawer o eiriau yn ymddangos yn Saesneg ond mae'r Alban yn siarad Gaeleg, sy'n tafod dramor!!!
Congratualtions you can use google translate.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: I have some friends in North wales who would beg to differ. They think anyone moving into their area should learn Welsh if they only speak English[/p][/quote]Gymraeg yn iaith Prydeinig gwreiddiol, fel bod llawer o eiriau yn ymddangos yn Saesneg ond mae'r Alban yn siarad Gaeleg, sy'n tafod dramor!!![/p][/quote]Congratualtions you can use google translate. caballo
  • Score: 15

11:37am Wed 18 Jun 14

elmo maniac says...

Welsh is strong in the north of wales. And theres no harm in learning the local language . If your here to work learn the language as I find its not fair on others as it make you feel uncomfortable not knowing what other foreigners are going on about.
Welsh is strong in the north of wales. And theres no harm in learning the local language . If your here to work learn the language as I find its not fair on others as it make you feel uncomfortable not knowing what other foreigners are going on about. elmo maniac
  • Score: 16

1:00pm Wed 18 Jun 14

GracesDad says...

elmo maniac wrote:
Welsh is strong in the north of wales. And theres no harm in learning the local language . If your here to work learn the language as I find its not fair on others as it make you feel uncomfortable not knowing what other foreigners are going on about.
there's*
you're*

You could use a few English lessons yourself!
[quote][p][bold]elmo maniac[/bold] wrote: Welsh is strong in the north of wales. And theres no harm in learning the local language . If your here to work learn the language as I find its not fair on others as it make you feel uncomfortable not knowing what other foreigners are going on about.[/p][/quote]there's* you're* You could use a few English lessons yourself! GracesDad
  • Score: -11

3:48pm Wed 18 Jun 14

grumpyoldlady says...

I know of a lady who came to the UK over 30 years ago, she has brought up eight children and still does not speak any English. There is a cost to all this, as the taxpayer has to fund translation of literature, appointments, school matters etc. As Commenting mentioned, this lady never mixes outside her community so she may as well be in Pakistan and have better weather!
I know of a lady who came to the UK over 30 years ago, she has brought up eight children and still does not speak any English. There is a cost to all this, as the taxpayer has to fund translation of literature, appointments, school matters etc. As Commenting mentioned, this lady never mixes outside her community so she may as well be in Pakistan and have better weather! grumpyoldlady
  • Score: 10

5:11pm Wed 18 Jun 14

coates warder says...

there has been asians here for decades and still cant speak a word of english
there has been asians here for decades and still cant speak a word of english coates warder
  • Score: 11

6:02pm Wed 18 Jun 14

zabby says...

Why don't we just stop all immigration ,then they would be less to worry about,we don't need more non English speaking people here ,we already have more than enough,which cost a fortune to keep
Why don't we just stop all immigration ,then they would be less to worry about,we don't need more non English speaking people here ,we already have more than enough,which cost a fortune to keep zabby
  • Score: 9

8:48pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Stone Island: says...

coates warder wrote:
there has been asians here for decades and still cant speak a word of english
They seem able to get by when it comes to claiming benefits.
[quote][p][bold]coates warder[/bold] wrote: there has been asians here for decades and still cant speak a word of english[/p][/quote]They seem able to get by when it comes to claiming benefits. Stone Island:
  • Score: 12

9:14am Thu 19 Jun 14

Andrew Weiler says...

I think there is no doubt that it would be to the advantage of all if immigrants learned English. However the situation is not that straightforward. Personal circumstances can prevent this happening ( as in the case of my widowed sickly mum who had to look after 2 children with very little funds she earned as she could).
Then of course are the problems that even keen immigrants who have the time and money face learning English. The reality is that the ways that English are taught, relying on methods that have had limited successes, put most people off. After trying for a while, many end up believing that they have no talent. That is not the problem, as we ALL showed early on we have talent for learning languages. The issue is that if you give a person a fork to eat soup with, they will struggle eating the soup. That is the situation we have now.
We need a relook at how English is taught, and we need to employ approaches that encourage people to learn more, not put them off. There are some ideas on what that might look like - http://www.strategie
sinlanguagelearning.
com/best-language-le
arning/
I think there is no doubt that it would be to the advantage of all if immigrants learned English. However the situation is not that straightforward. Personal circumstances can prevent this happening ( as in the case of my widowed sickly mum who had to look after 2 children with very little funds she earned as she could). Then of course are the problems that even keen immigrants who have the time and money face learning English. The reality is that the ways that English are taught, relying on methods that have had limited successes, put most people off. After trying for a while, many end up believing that they have no talent. That is not the problem, as we ALL showed early on we have talent for learning languages. The issue is that if you give a person a fork to eat soup with, they will struggle eating the soup. That is the situation we have now. We need a relook at how English is taught, and we need to employ approaches that encourage people to learn more, not put them off. There are some ideas on what that might look like - http://www.strategie sinlanguagelearning. com/best-language-le arning/ Andrew Weiler
  • Score: -4

9:17am Thu 19 Jun 14

madari says...

Andrew Weiler wrote:
I think there is no doubt that it would be to the advantage of all if immigrants learned English. However the situation is not that straightforward. Personal circumstances can prevent this happening ( as in the case of my widowed sickly mum who had to look after 2 children with very little funds she earned as she could).
Then of course are the problems that even keen immigrants who have the time and money face learning English. The reality is that the ways that English are taught, relying on methods that have had limited successes, put most people off. After trying for a while, many end up believing that they have no talent. That is not the problem, as we ALL showed early on we have talent for learning languages. The issue is that if you give a person a fork to eat soup with, they will struggle eating the soup. That is the situation we have now.
We need a relook at how English is taught, and we need to employ approaches that encourage people to learn more, not put them off. There are some ideas on what that might look like - http://www.strategie

sinlanguagelearning.

com/best-language-le

arning/
Madari the snake charmer says:

Can you please translate the above in English???
[quote][p][bold]Andrew Weiler[/bold] wrote: I think there is no doubt that it would be to the advantage of all if immigrants learned English. However the situation is not that straightforward. Personal circumstances can prevent this happening ( as in the case of my widowed sickly mum who had to look after 2 children with very little funds she earned as she could). Then of course are the problems that even keen immigrants who have the time and money face learning English. The reality is that the ways that English are taught, relying on methods that have had limited successes, put most people off. After trying for a while, many end up believing that they have no talent. That is not the problem, as we ALL showed early on we have talent for learning languages. The issue is that if you give a person a fork to eat soup with, they will struggle eating the soup. That is the situation we have now. We need a relook at how English is taught, and we need to employ approaches that encourage people to learn more, not put them off. There are some ideas on what that might look like - http://www.strategie sinlanguagelearning. com/best-language-le arning/[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Can you please translate the above in English??? madari
  • Score: 3

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