Coroner writes to Highways Agency on M65 lights

Chorley Citizen: Coroner writes to agency on M65 lights Coroner writes to agency on M65 lights

BOSSES at the Highways Agency have confirmed the organisation has received a letter from a coroner about its M65 lighting policy.

Michael Singleton, coroner for Blackburn, Hyndburn and the Ribble Valley said he planned to write to the agency following the inquest into the death of Mark Burgess.

The 39-year-old, who was born in Burnley, but lived in Abbey Village, was killed when his car crashed into a barrier near junction eight.

Mr Singleton heard how HGV driver Mr Burgess had not been wearing a seatbelt at the time of the collision and was two-and-a-half times over the drink drive limit, meaning lighting would probably not affected the outcome.

But motorists caught up in the aftermath of the crash who collided with the debris, said they could not see what was in the road because it was too dark.

The Highways Agency, which manages the motorway from junction one to 10, turned the lights out between junctions seven and 10 in 2011 to reduce carbon emissions.

Junctions 10 to 14, where the lights are turned off between midnight and 5am, are maintained by Lancashire County Council.

The Lancashire Telegraph launched its Turn The Lights On campaign in a bid to have the motorway lights switched back on.

A spokesman for the Highways Agency said officials were now considering the issues raised in the letter. They have until April 22 to respond.

To sign the Lancashire Telegraph petition, visit http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/campaigns/make_the_m65_safer/make_the_m65_safer_petition/?ref=fetp

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5:48pm Thu 27 Feb 14

phil kernot says...

We pay millions of pounds in road tax we should all say we're not paying it , people moan but do nothing and the goverment know that the people under them are so ,,can do what thay want ,, saving a few pence on lighting ,,, stop sending billions of aid cash to Pakistan until it goes to the people who need it not flying people into space ,,,,
We pay millions of pounds in road tax we should all say we're not paying it , people moan but do nothing and the goverment know that the people under them are so ,,can do what thay want ,, saving a few pence on lighting ,,, stop sending billions of aid cash to Pakistan until it goes to the people who need it not flying people into space ,,,, phil kernot

7:23pm Thu 27 Feb 14

woolywords says...

Whilst I accept that the initial accident was not their fault, the Highways Agency must take responsibility for the subsequent events. Especially when they produce to the Coroner, figures that suggest that there will be a tendency towards increased risk of an accident.
Even if it is only by 0.06%, this acts as a multiplier, when you consider the road conditions at that time, much as the risk of being hit by lightening increases when you play golf during a thunderstorm.
They should also take into account that an ambulance was involved in the aftermath. These vehicles are checked by their crews to a daily checklist, that includes lighting and as such, if a professionally trained crew got into difficulties, there can be little hope for any other.
They should also take note that ambulances use this route, on a more than usual number of times, at all hours, transferring patients for various clinical needs, in either urgent or non-urgent cases. Is exposing them to a greater risk, an acceptable part of your reasoning?
All in all, your interpretation of the risk assessment is flawed, therefore as such, is putting peoples lives at risk and cannot be said to be acceptable, by anyone other than yourselves.
Any delay in a positive response, can only be seen by right minded people as being inept intransigence and that you care more for getting your books in order before becoming a Gov't agency, than you care for the lives of those whom you serve. Stop playing politics before someone gets killed, turn the lights on, NOW!
Whilst I accept that the initial accident was not their fault, the Highways Agency must take responsibility for the subsequent events. Especially when they produce to the Coroner, figures that suggest that there will be a tendency towards increased risk of an accident. Even if it is only by 0.06%, this acts as a multiplier, when you consider the road conditions at that time, much as the risk of being hit by lightening increases when you play golf during a thunderstorm. They should also take into account that an ambulance was involved in the aftermath. These vehicles are checked by their crews to a daily checklist, that includes lighting and as such, if a professionally trained crew got into difficulties, there can be little hope for any other. They should also take note that ambulances use this route, on a more than usual number of times, at all hours, transferring patients for various clinical needs, in either urgent or non-urgent cases. Is exposing them to a greater risk, an acceptable part of your reasoning? All in all, your interpretation of the risk assessment is flawed, therefore as such, is putting peoples lives at risk and cannot be said to be acceptable, by anyone other than yourselves. Any delay in a positive response, can only be seen by right minded people as being inept intransigence and that you care more for getting your books in order before becoming a Gov't agency, than you care for the lives of those whom you serve. Stop playing politics before someone gets killed, turn the lights on, NOW! woolywords

8:12pm Thu 27 Feb 14

M.DANNY says...

Britain is a small overcrowded country with 35 million cars and we have a small motorway network .I am backing Lancashire Telegraph campaign to have our lights back on grounds of safety in event of an accident.
Forget about carbon emission what about the bigger countries like USA, Russia, China, Brazil and India with their huge population and hundreds of millions of cars and many thousands miles of motorways they are the biggest polluters on planet Earth.
Britain is a small overcrowded country with 35 million cars and we have a small motorway network .I am backing Lancashire Telegraph campaign to have our lights back on grounds of safety in event of an accident. Forget about carbon emission what about the bigger countries like USA, Russia, China, Brazil and India with their huge population and hundreds of millions of cars and many thousands miles of motorways they are the biggest polluters on planet Earth. M.DANNY

9:16pm Thu 27 Feb 14

happycyclist says...

Car headlights are bright. Bright enough to be able to see where you're going. If you can't see where you're going then you're not fit to be on the motorway. SLOW DOWN!
Car headlights are bright. Bright enough to be able to see where you're going. If you can't see where you're going then you're not fit to be on the motorway. SLOW DOWN! happycyclist

9:33pm Thu 27 Feb 14

M.DANNY says...

phil kernot wrote:
We pay millions of pounds in road tax we should all say we're not paying it , people moan but do nothing and the goverment know that the people under them are so ,,can do what thay want ,, saving a few pence on lighting ,,, stop sending billions of aid cash to Pakistan until it goes to the people who need it not flying people into space ,,,,
I think you meant India and China the new superpowers who are flying rockets to moon and mars and still getting hundreds of millions pounds in aid from Britain.UKIP party want to stop aid cash going to India and China not Pakistan.
Pakistan is a very poor country who do need our millions in aid cash and does have a space program .
Pakistan population is 185 million sixth most populous country in the world and economy is smaller than Singapore, Hong Kong,UAE and Israel .
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: We pay millions of pounds in road tax we should all say we're not paying it , people moan but do nothing and the goverment know that the people under them are so ,,can do what thay want ,, saving a few pence on lighting ,,, stop sending billions of aid cash to Pakistan until it goes to the people who need it not flying people into space ,,,,[/p][/quote]I think you meant India and China the new superpowers who are flying rockets to moon and mars and still getting hundreds of millions pounds in aid from Britain.UKIP party want to stop aid cash going to India and China not Pakistan. Pakistan is a very poor country who do need our millions in aid cash and does have a space program . Pakistan population is 185 million sixth most populous country in the world and economy is smaller than Singapore, Hong Kong,UAE and Israel . M.DANNY

9:39pm Thu 27 Feb 14

M.DANNY says...

phil kernot wrote:
We pay millions of pounds in road tax we should all say we're not paying it , people moan but do nothing and the goverment know that the people under them are so ,,can do what thay want ,, saving a few pence on lighting ,,, stop sending billions of aid cash to Pakistan until it goes to the people who need it not flying people into space ,,,,
I think you meant India and China who are flying rockets to mars and moons and still getting millions in cash aid from Britain.
Pakistan is poor country with 185 million people with economy smaller than UAE Singapore Hong Kong and Israel.
Pakistan need western cash aid for it's economic developments and infrastructures such as electricity, roads, schools and hospitals.
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: We pay millions of pounds in road tax we should all say we're not paying it , people moan but do nothing and the goverment know that the people under them are so ,,can do what thay want ,, saving a few pence on lighting ,,, stop sending billions of aid cash to Pakistan until it goes to the people who need it not flying people into space ,,,,[/p][/quote]I think you meant India and China who are flying rockets to mars and moons and still getting millions in cash aid from Britain. Pakistan is poor country with 185 million people with economy smaller than UAE Singapore Hong Kong and Israel. Pakistan need western cash aid for it's economic developments and infrastructures such as electricity, roads, schools and hospitals. M.DANNY

9:49pm Thu 27 Feb 14

M.DANNY says...

happycyclist wrote:
Car headlights are bright. Bright enough to be able to see where you're going. If you can't see where you're going then you're not fit to be on the motorway. SLOW DOWN!
Cars are lethal weapons too it can kill and injure people yes it's bright enough to be able see where you are going. But if there were serious accidents on the unlit motorways it would be dangerous for other motorists travelling or heading toward scene of the accidents.
Cyclist are safe on small paths but not major roads ie dual carriageways and motorways.
I have seen horrific accidents on motorways on M6 and M62 but these motorways were lit on nights so the traffic were moved on hard shoulder by the police .
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: Car headlights are bright. Bright enough to be able to see where you're going. If you can't see where you're going then you're not fit to be on the motorway. SLOW DOWN![/p][/quote]Cars are lethal weapons too it can kill and injure people yes it's bright enough to be able see where you are going. But if there were serious accidents on the unlit motorways it would be dangerous for other motorists travelling or heading toward scene of the accidents. Cyclist are safe on small paths but not major roads ie dual carriageways and motorways. I have seen horrific accidents on motorways on M6 and M62 but these motorways were lit on nights so the traffic were moved on hard shoulder by the police . M.DANNY

8:23am Fri 28 Feb 14

useyourhead says...

But the real cause was a drunk, no one is getting mad about that I see.
But the real cause was a drunk, no one is getting mad about that I see. useyourhead

10:14am Fri 28 Feb 14

bradscorner says...

Highway code rule 146 states:

Adapt your driving to the appropriate type and condition of road you are on. In particular… take the road and traffic conditions into account. Be prepared for unexpected or difficult situations, for example the road being blocked beyond a blind bend. Be prepared to adjust your speed as a precaution.

If these rules were applied by all drivers then the accident statistics on our roads would be dramatically reduced. Unfortunately, people rarely even look at this freely available publication, let alone apply it to their driving techniques. People drive too fast on our motorways, and too close. The speed limit is exactly that, and it is there for a reason. What s wrong with people taking responsibility for their actions?

The fact that an ambulance was involved in this is irrelevant. They are not immune from accidents! Further, to call for lighting on this motorway is to call for all roads in the UK to be illuminated, on the odd chance that it might save the life of some fool who drives too fast in conditions they are not prepared for.

Those who say this is about money are missing the point. Reducing carbon emissions is an important target not just for us who are charging around our motorways too fast and too close, but for our children and their children. We need to seriously address our energy consumption; it is crass arrogance to assume that as our population continues to spiral uncontrollably we can continue to demand more and more energy. That view is simply unsustainable. Does the Lancashire Telegraph not believe that reducing carbon emissions is a worthy enough cause to set up a bloody petition for?
Highway code rule 146 states: Adapt your driving to the appropriate type and condition of road you are on. In particular… take the road and traffic conditions into account. Be prepared for unexpected or difficult situations, for example the road being blocked beyond a blind bend. Be prepared to adjust your speed as a precaution. If these rules were applied by all drivers then the accident statistics on our roads would be dramatically reduced. Unfortunately, people rarely even look at this freely available publication, let alone apply it to their driving techniques. People drive too fast on our motorways, and too close. The speed limit is exactly that, and it is there for a reason. What s wrong with people taking responsibility for their actions? The fact that an ambulance was involved in this is irrelevant. They are not immune from accidents! Further, to call for lighting on this motorway is to call for all roads in the UK to be illuminated, on the odd chance that it might save the life of some fool who drives too fast in conditions they are not prepared for. Those who say this is about money are missing the point. Reducing carbon emissions is an important target not just for us who are charging around our motorways too fast and too close, but for our children and their children. We need to seriously address our energy consumption; it is crass arrogance to assume that as our population continues to spiral uncontrollably we can continue to demand more and more energy. That view is simply unsustainable. Does the Lancashire Telegraph not believe that reducing carbon emissions is a worthy enough cause to set up a bloody petition for? bradscorner

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