Drug dealers apply for jobs in East Lancashire schools

Chorley Citizen: Jack Straw Jack Straw

DRUG dealers, fraudsters and benefits thieves were among those applying for jobs in East Lancashire schools last year, it has been revealed.

Almost 100 applicants were found to have been cautioned, or convicted of offences such as dealing heroin, assaulting a police officer, skipping bail, and money laundering.

And they could be working in classrooms across East Lancashire, because recruitment decisions are often made at the discretion of individual schools.

Other offences flagged up by the Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) included assault, stealing from a place of work, harassment, possessing an offensive weapon in public, and shoplifting.

Last year, 2,941 checks were made on people applying for teaching and caretaker jobs at schools in the area, leading to 97 criminal records being revealed.

Although some offences ban offenders from working with young, or vulnerable people, including murder and rape, others don’t, and the decision is left to be made by employers.

The DBS did not release details on where the jobs were applied for, in order to protect the applications, and said it did not know whether they had been given jobs, or not.

Out of 9,137 checks carried out in the last three years, 320 led to criminal records being disclosed.

Blackburn MP and for-mer Justice Minister Jack Straw said: “Some of these convictions may be very old and, just as it would be wrong to employ someone in a position of trust who has been recently convic-ted, I also believe that people who offended years ago and have led orderly lives since should not be barred from having a job.”

Head of schools’ human resources at Lancashire County Council, Jeanette Whitham, said: “Each app- licant is examined individually, and the nature of the offence, and when it happened, is taken into account.

“An applicant’s criminal record is also assessed in relation to the work he, or she, would be expected to do, and in what circumstances.

Director of human resources and legal services at Blackburn with Darwen Council, David Fairclough, added: “There are circumstances where potential staff could work in school without DBS, but there is a stringent process in place that takes decisions like these on a case by case basis, with the final decision being made by the headteacher.”

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10:24am Tue 4 Feb 14

AnthonyUK says...

These people should be refused ANY employment!
These people should be refused ANY employment! AnthonyUK

10:52am Tue 4 Feb 14

shytalk says...

Well the kids have to learn their future trades from someone. Lets be realistic, their chances of finding proper jobs in Lancashire are very remote.
Well the kids have to learn their future trades from someone. Lets be realistic, their chances of finding proper jobs in Lancashire are very remote. shytalk

12:16pm Tue 4 Feb 14

abetterblackburn says...

“Blackburn MP and former Justice Minister Jack Straw said: “Some of these convictions may be very old and, just as it would be wrong to employ someone in a position of trust who has been recently convicted, I also believe that people who offended years ago and have led orderly lives since should not be barred from having a job.”

I couldn’t agree with you more Jack. Over time everyone should be given a second chance no matter of the consequences to what they may have done. Even yourself for instance, after having loyally served the people of Blackburn and the whole country and in actual fact the whole world with utmost loyal forthright distinction for so long it has to be said no matter who we are sometimes anyone can make mistakes. To have had the indignity to have been accused of inventing weapons of mass destruction just to make a war on Iraq was utterly outrageous. We all knew that Sadam had them hidden away somewhere even though they were never found. How were you to know that Tony Blair may have been telling us all a lie. Did the world want to take that chance of those weapons of mass destruction being fired at us, definitely not. I‘m sure you wouldn‘t have invaded Iraq if you had known the truth. Anyway, all that is now in the past and best for everyone to forget about those mistakes made!

Therefore I really do hope that when the times comes you will be able to put these matters to one side and enjoy your well earned retirement to the full after having served Blackburn and Darwen and the whole world over the many years with such humble unselfish distinction. Let’s all hope Kate Hollern will be able to carry on your good work after she takes your place as MP for Blackburn. Both of you have been working hand in hand for so long providing the people of Blackburn and Darwen with all it can justifiably boast about today. Both of you providing harmony and unison for us all. All the very best to both of you for the future!
“Blackburn MP and former Justice Minister Jack Straw said: “Some of these convictions may be very old and, just as it would be wrong to employ someone in a position of trust who has been recently convicted, I also believe that people who offended years ago and have led orderly lives since should not be barred from having a job.” I couldn’t agree with you more Jack. Over time everyone should be given a second chance no matter of the consequences to what they may have done. Even yourself for instance, after having loyally served the people of Blackburn and the whole country and in actual fact the whole world with utmost loyal forthright distinction for so long it has to be said no matter who we are sometimes anyone can make mistakes. To have had the indignity to have been accused of inventing weapons of mass destruction just to make a war on Iraq was utterly outrageous. We all knew that Sadam had them hidden away somewhere even though they were never found. How were you to know that Tony Blair may have been telling us all a lie. Did the world want to take that chance of those weapons of mass destruction being fired at us, definitely not. I‘m sure you wouldn‘t have invaded Iraq if you had known the truth. Anyway, all that is now in the past and best for everyone to forget about those mistakes made! Therefore I really do hope that when the times comes you will be able to put these matters to one side and enjoy your well earned retirement to the full after having served Blackburn and Darwen and the whole world over the many years with such humble unselfish distinction. Let’s all hope Kate Hollern will be able to carry on your good work after she takes your place as MP for Blackburn. Both of you have been working hand in hand for so long providing the people of Blackburn and Darwen with all it can justifiably boast about today. Both of you providing harmony and unison for us all. All the very best to both of you for the future! abetterblackburn

12:39pm Tue 4 Feb 14

easypeasy says...

TONY WALES wrote:
easypeasy wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
ARSEHOLE people like you make me sick your attitude stinks. People make mistakes & refusing them employment helps no one. Your obviously a very selfish individual with a chip on your shoulder. Everyone deserves to move on i bet your far from perfect yourself. Oh and before you comment i have never been in trouble with the law & work full time in an extremly worthwhile job. crawl back under your stone
I gather from your lack of the correct spelling ,and grammar used in your comments, you are not teaching English at a school.

So at least ,with you not working as a teacher, there is still a chance the children may receive a decent education.
Grammar & spelling are irrelevant don't change the subject Saint Tony. Your still an ARSEHOLE
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]easypeasy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]ARSEHOLE people like you make me sick your attitude stinks. People make mistakes & refusing them employment helps no one. Your obviously a very selfish individual with a chip on your shoulder. Everyone deserves to move on i bet your far from perfect yourself. Oh and before you comment i have never been in trouble with the law & work full time in an extremly worthwhile job. crawl back under your stone[/p][/quote]I gather from your lack of the correct spelling ,and grammar used in your comments, you are not teaching English at a school. So at least ,with you not working as a teacher, there is still a chance the children may receive a decent education.[/p][/quote]Grammar & spelling are irrelevant don't change the subject Saint Tony. Your still an ARSEHOLE easypeasy

1:06pm Tue 4 Feb 14

cathedral citi says...

abetterblackburn wrote:
“Blackburn MP and former Justice Minister Jack Straw said: “Some of these convictions may be very old and, just as it would be wrong to employ someone in a position of trust who has been recently convicted, I also believe that people who offended years ago and have led orderly lives since should not be barred from having a job.”

I couldn’t agree with you more Jack. Over time everyone should be given a second chance no matter of the consequences to what they may have done. Even yourself for instance, after having loyally served the people of Blackburn and the whole country and in actual fact the whole world with utmost loyal forthright distinction for so long it has to be said no matter who we are sometimes anyone can make mistakes. To have had the indignity to have been accused of inventing weapons of mass destruction just to make a war on Iraq was utterly outrageous. We all knew that Sadam had them hidden away somewhere even though they were never found. How were you to know that Tony Blair may have been telling us all a lie. Did the world want to take that chance of those weapons of mass destruction being fired at us, definitely not. I‘m sure you wouldn‘t have invaded Iraq if you had known the truth. Anyway, all that is now in the past and best for everyone to forget about those mistakes made!

Therefore I really do hope that when the times comes you will be able to put these matters to one side and enjoy your well earned retirement to the full after having served Blackburn and Darwen and the whole world over the many years with such humble unselfish distinction. Let’s all hope Kate Hollern will be able to carry on your good work after she takes your place as MP for Blackburn. Both of you have been working hand in hand for so long providing the people of Blackburn and Darwen with all it can justifiably boast about today. Both of you providing harmony and unison for us all. All the very best to both of you for the future!
Great to see an honest and heartfelt blog. I'm also of the belief, that the rt. hon. Jack Straw, MP has done a great deal of good, not only for Blackburn, but nationally, and internationally, too. He has worked tirelessly in trying to improve our lot.

He is a statesman.

As for Kate Hollern......she is a good councillor, and were she to be the next MP for Blackburn, only time will tell as to whether she will be a successful, unselfish, pro-constituent politician.
[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: “Blackburn MP and former Justice Minister Jack Straw said: “Some of these convictions may be very old and, just as it would be wrong to employ someone in a position of trust who has been recently convicted, I also believe that people who offended years ago and have led orderly lives since should not be barred from having a job.” I couldn’t agree with you more Jack. Over time everyone should be given a second chance no matter of the consequences to what they may have done. Even yourself for instance, after having loyally served the people of Blackburn and the whole country and in actual fact the whole world with utmost loyal forthright distinction for so long it has to be said no matter who we are sometimes anyone can make mistakes. To have had the indignity to have been accused of inventing weapons of mass destruction just to make a war on Iraq was utterly outrageous. We all knew that Sadam had them hidden away somewhere even though they were never found. How were you to know that Tony Blair may have been telling us all a lie. Did the world want to take that chance of those weapons of mass destruction being fired at us, definitely not. I‘m sure you wouldn‘t have invaded Iraq if you had known the truth. Anyway, all that is now in the past and best for everyone to forget about those mistakes made! Therefore I really do hope that when the times comes you will be able to put these matters to one side and enjoy your well earned retirement to the full after having served Blackburn and Darwen and the whole world over the many years with such humble unselfish distinction. Let’s all hope Kate Hollern will be able to carry on your good work after she takes your place as MP for Blackburn. Both of you have been working hand in hand for so long providing the people of Blackburn and Darwen with all it can justifiably boast about today. Both of you providing harmony and unison for us all. All the very best to both of you for the future![/p][/quote]Great to see an honest and heartfelt blog. I'm also of the belief, that the rt. hon. Jack Straw, MP has done a great deal of good, not only for Blackburn, but nationally, and internationally, too. He has worked tirelessly in trying to improve our lot. He is a statesman. As for Kate Hollern......she is a good councillor, and were she to be the next MP for Blackburn, only time will tell as to whether she will be a successful, unselfish, pro-constituent politician. cathedral citi

1:07pm Tue 4 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work!
Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work.
Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work! Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work. Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance. HarryBosch

4:09pm Tue 4 Feb 14

AnthonyUK says...

HarryBosch wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work!
Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work.
Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.
Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted.
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work! Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work. Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.[/p][/quote]Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted. AnthonyUK

4:13pm Tue 4 Feb 14

AnthonyUK says...

HarryBosch wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work!
Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work.
Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.
And people like you are exactly why the UK is like it is;people breaking the law holding down good jobs being defended on the premise "a second chance" as you call it!
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work! Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work. Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.[/p][/quote]And people like you are exactly why the UK is like it is;people breaking the law holding down good jobs being defended on the premise "a second chance" as you call it! AnthonyUK

4:42pm Tue 4 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
HarryBosch wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work!
Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work.
Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.
Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted.
My proviso was 'subject to the requirements of The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act' everybody deserves a second chance.
Since you seem so stuck on not allowing ex offenders to work, what do you suggest happens to them?
We all make mistakes from time to time, that's why they put rubbers on the end of pencils. If someone has paid for their crime and come good they deserve the chance to work and provide for themselves and their families. Imagine the scenario if no ex - offenders were allowed to work! We would all be holed up, armed to the teeth trying to protect our properties.
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work! Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work. Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.[/p][/quote]Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted.[/p][/quote]My proviso was 'subject to the requirements of The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act' everybody deserves a second chance. Since you seem so stuck on not allowing ex offenders to work, what do you suggest happens to them? We all make mistakes from time to time, that's why they put rubbers on the end of pencils. If someone has paid for their crime and come good they deserve the chance to work and provide for themselves and their families. Imagine the scenario if no ex - offenders were allowed to work! We would all be holed up, armed to the teeth trying to protect our properties. HarryBosch

5:45pm Tue 4 Feb 14

wacked1212@gmail.com says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
^^^^^CRANK^^^^^
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]^^^^^CRANK^^^^^ wacked1212@gmail.com

5:49pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Copperhead says...

Given the track record of many MPs, all these criminal types should apply for Straw'a job when he gets his peerage and leaves the Commons.
Given the track record of many MPs, all these criminal types should apply for Straw'a job when he gets his peerage and leaves the Commons. Copperhead

6:13pm Tue 4 Feb 14

wacked1212@gmail.com says...

shytalk wrote:
Well the kids have to learn their future trades from someone. Lets be realistic, their chances of finding proper jobs in Lancashire are very remote.
^^^Another CRANK who's Moniker says it all ( s*italk)^^^^
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: Well the kids have to learn their future trades from someone. Lets be realistic, their chances of finding proper jobs in Lancashire are very remote.[/p][/quote]^^^Another CRANK who's Moniker says it all ( s*italk)^^^^ wacked1212@gmail.com

6:33pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

As I understand it, if you are on job seekers you have to apply for so many jobs a fortnight or loose benefit. So of course you are going to get lots of unsuitable people applying for all sorts of jobs. So to me this is a non story.
As I understand it, if you are on job seekers you have to apply for so many jobs a fortnight or loose benefit. So of course you are going to get lots of unsuitable people applying for all sorts of jobs. So to me this is a non story. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

7:39pm Tue 4 Feb 14

phil kernot says...

So the notion is if you have a record that means you can't change and never be employed again so if these are never given a chance how are thay meant to support themselves , that's a crack pot idea who will keep them supported the dole ,, , people can change and better themselves ,, if thay wanted to ...
So the notion is if you have a record that means you can't change and never be employed again so if these are never given a chance how are thay meant to support themselves , that's a crack pot idea who will keep them supported the dole ,, , people can change and better themselves ,, if thay wanted to ... phil kernot

8:47pm Tue 4 Feb 14

leyton says...

Other offences flagged up by the Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) included assault, stealing from a place of work, harassment, possessing an offensive weapon in public, and shoplifting
.and if you google teachers who have kept their jobs include sexual assault as well
Other offences flagged up by the Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) included assault, stealing from a place of work, harassment, possessing an offensive weapon in public, and shoplifting .and if you google teachers who have kept their jobs include sexual assault as well leyton

8:52pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Wishingwell says...

Redemption is a fundamental building block of civilisation you don't have to be religious or New Labour to know that.
Redemption is a fundamental building block of civilisation you don't have to be religious or New Labour to know that. Wishingwell

8:10am Wed 5 Feb 14

AnthonyUK says...

HarryBosch wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
HarryBosch wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work!
Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work.
Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.
Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted.
My proviso was 'subject to the requirements of The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act' everybody deserves a second chance.
Since you seem so stuck on not allowing ex offenders to work, what do you suggest happens to them?
We all make mistakes from time to time, that's why they put rubbers on the end of pencils. If someone has paid for their crime and come good they deserve the chance to work and provide for themselves and their families. Imagine the scenario if no ex - offenders were allowed to work! We would all be holed up, armed to the teeth trying to protect our properties.
BUT what if they slip and go back to their old ways? Time and time and time again you DO occasionally get momentary lapses in some instances where an ex-offender CANNOT resist getting back into shoplifting assault drugdealing on the side growing cannabis money laundering etc and all the other offences mentioned in this report and put themselves on the firing line.
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work! Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work. Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.[/p][/quote]Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted.[/p][/quote]My proviso was 'subject to the requirements of The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act' everybody deserves a second chance. Since you seem so stuck on not allowing ex offenders to work, what do you suggest happens to them? We all make mistakes from time to time, that's why they put rubbers on the end of pencils. If someone has paid for their crime and come good they deserve the chance to work and provide for themselves and their families. Imagine the scenario if no ex - offenders were allowed to work! We would all be holed up, armed to the teeth trying to protect our properties.[/p][/quote]BUT what if they slip and go back to their old ways? Time and time and time again you DO occasionally get momentary lapses in some instances where an ex-offender CANNOT resist getting back into shoplifting assault drugdealing on the side growing cannabis money laundering etc and all the other offences mentioned in this report and put themselves on the firing line. AnthonyUK

9:14am Wed 5 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
HarryBosch wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
HarryBosch wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work!
Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work.
Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.
Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted.
My proviso was 'subject to the requirements of The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act' everybody deserves a second chance.
Since you seem so stuck on not allowing ex offenders to work, what do you suggest happens to them?
We all make mistakes from time to time, that's why they put rubbers on the end of pencils. If someone has paid for their crime and come good they deserve the chance to work and provide for themselves and their families. Imagine the scenario if no ex - offenders were allowed to work! We would all be holed up, armed to the teeth trying to protect our properties.
BUT what if they slip and go back to their old ways? Time and time and time again you DO occasionally get momentary lapses in some instances where an ex-offender CANNOT resist getting back into shoplifting assault drugdealing on the side growing cannabis money laundering etc and all the other offences mentioned in this report and put themselves on the firing line.
Agreed, but that's no reason to tar every ex-offender with the same brush. Each individual must be treated on their own merits and to make a sweeping statement like your opening one was arrogant and bigoted.
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]People are whinging about benefits claimants and here you are saying people who have committed offences should never be allowed to work! Well, in my opinion, everybody deserves a second chance. That's why the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act exists. Subject to the requirements of that act then everyone has a right to work. Sorry AnthonyUK, you can't have it both ways, so I have to say i agree with the previous poster, people deserve a second chance.[/p][/quote]Even if they have serious crimes like drugdealing benefit fraud shoplifting assaulted police officers skipped bail and illegally laundered money? I would NEVER EVER take these people on as an employer unless I feel they can be trusted.[/p][/quote]My proviso was 'subject to the requirements of The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act' everybody deserves a second chance. Since you seem so stuck on not allowing ex offenders to work, what do you suggest happens to them? We all make mistakes from time to time, that's why they put rubbers on the end of pencils. If someone has paid for their crime and come good they deserve the chance to work and provide for themselves and their families. Imagine the scenario if no ex - offenders were allowed to work! We would all be holed up, armed to the teeth trying to protect our properties.[/p][/quote]BUT what if they slip and go back to their old ways? Time and time and time again you DO occasionally get momentary lapses in some instances where an ex-offender CANNOT resist getting back into shoplifting assault drugdealing on the side growing cannabis money laundering etc and all the other offences mentioned in this report and put themselves on the firing line.[/p][/quote]Agreed, but that's no reason to tar every ex-offender with the same brush. Each individual must be treated on their own merits and to make a sweeping statement like your opening one was arrogant and bigoted. HarryBosch

11:54am Wed 5 Feb 14

TONY WALES says...

easypeasy wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
easypeasy wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
These people should be refused ANY employment!
ARSEHOLE people like you make me sick your attitude stinks. People make mistakes & refusing them employment helps no one. Your obviously a very selfish individual with a chip on your shoulder. Everyone deserves to move on i bet your far from perfect yourself. Oh and before you comment i have never been in trouble with the law & work full time in an extremly worthwhile job. crawl back under your stone
I gather from your lack of the correct spelling ,and grammar used in your comments, you are not teaching English at a school.

So at least ,with you not working as a teacher, there is still a chance the children may receive a decent education.
Grammar & spelling are irrelevant don't change the subject Saint Tony. Your still an ARSEHOLE
But an educated one, who has a better command of the English language.
[quote][p][bold]easypeasy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]easypeasy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: These people should be refused ANY employment![/p][/quote]ARSEHOLE people like you make me sick your attitude stinks. People make mistakes & refusing them employment helps no one. Your obviously a very selfish individual with a chip on your shoulder. Everyone deserves to move on i bet your far from perfect yourself. Oh and before you comment i have never been in trouble with the law & work full time in an extremly worthwhile job. crawl back under your stone[/p][/quote]I gather from your lack of the correct spelling ,and grammar used in your comments, you are not teaching English at a school. So at least ,with you not working as a teacher, there is still a chance the children may receive a decent education.[/p][/quote]Grammar & spelling are irrelevant don't change the subject Saint Tony. Your still an ARSEHOLE[/p][/quote]But an educated one, who has a better command of the English language. TONY WALES

4:11pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bow1974 says...

cathedral citi wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
“Blackburn MP and former Justice Minister Jack Straw said: “Some of these convictions may be very old and, just as it would be wrong to employ someone in a position of trust who has been recently convicted, I also believe that people who offended years ago and have led orderly lives since should not be barred from having a job.”

I couldn’t agree with you more Jack. Over time everyone should be given a second chance no matter of the consequences to what they may have done. Even yourself for instance, after having loyally served the people of Blackburn and the whole country and in actual fact the whole world with utmost loyal forthright distinction for so long it has to be said no matter who we are sometimes anyone can make mistakes. To have had the indignity to have been accused of inventing weapons of mass destruction just to make a war on Iraq was utterly outrageous. We all knew that Sadam had them hidden away somewhere even though they were never found. How were you to know that Tony Blair may have been telling us all a lie. Did the world want to take that chance of those weapons of mass destruction being fired at us, definitely not. I‘m sure you wouldn‘t have invaded Iraq if you had known the truth. Anyway, all that is now in the past and best for everyone to forget about those mistakes made!

Therefore I really do hope that when the times comes you will be able to put these matters to one side and enjoy your well earned retirement to the full after having served Blackburn and Darwen and the whole world over the many years with such humble unselfish distinction. Let’s all hope Kate Hollern will be able to carry on your good work after she takes your place as MP for Blackburn. Both of you have been working hand in hand for so long providing the people of Blackburn and Darwen with all it can justifiably boast about today. Both of you providing harmony and unison for us all. All the very best to both of you for the future!
Great to see an honest and heartfelt blog. I'm also of the belief, that the rt. hon. Jack Straw, MP has done a great deal of good, not only for Blackburn, but nationally, and internationally, too. He has worked tirelessly in trying to improve our lot.

He is a statesman.

As for Kate Hollern......she is a good councillor, and were she to be the next MP for Blackburn, only time will tell as to whether she will be a successful, unselfish, pro-constituent politician.
Forget kate would never vote her in she's only in it for herself and her well off buddies. Get someone in that will work for your vote ie millhill and galligreaves councillor Carol Walsh she has done an amazing job for her residents think what she could do for Blackburn.
[quote][p][bold]cathedral citi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: “Blackburn MP and former Justice Minister Jack Straw said: “Some of these convictions may be very old and, just as it would be wrong to employ someone in a position of trust who has been recently convicted, I also believe that people who offended years ago and have led orderly lives since should not be barred from having a job.” I couldn’t agree with you more Jack. Over time everyone should be given a second chance no matter of the consequences to what they may have done. Even yourself for instance, after having loyally served the people of Blackburn and the whole country and in actual fact the whole world with utmost loyal forthright distinction for so long it has to be said no matter who we are sometimes anyone can make mistakes. To have had the indignity to have been accused of inventing weapons of mass destruction just to make a war on Iraq was utterly outrageous. We all knew that Sadam had them hidden away somewhere even though they were never found. How were you to know that Tony Blair may have been telling us all a lie. Did the world want to take that chance of those weapons of mass destruction being fired at us, definitely not. I‘m sure you wouldn‘t have invaded Iraq if you had known the truth. Anyway, all that is now in the past and best for everyone to forget about those mistakes made! Therefore I really do hope that when the times comes you will be able to put these matters to one side and enjoy your well earned retirement to the full after having served Blackburn and Darwen and the whole world over the many years with such humble unselfish distinction. Let’s all hope Kate Hollern will be able to carry on your good work after she takes your place as MP for Blackburn. Both of you have been working hand in hand for so long providing the people of Blackburn and Darwen with all it can justifiably boast about today. Both of you providing harmony and unison for us all. All the very best to both of you for the future![/p][/quote]Great to see an honest and heartfelt blog. I'm also of the belief, that the rt. hon. Jack Straw, MP has done a great deal of good, not only for Blackburn, but nationally, and internationally, too. He has worked tirelessly in trying to improve our lot. He is a statesman. As for Kate Hollern......she is a good councillor, and were she to be the next MP for Blackburn, only time will tell as to whether she will be a successful, unselfish, pro-constituent politician.[/p][/quote]Forget kate would never vote her in she's only in it for herself and her well off buddies. Get someone in that will work for your vote ie millhill and galligreaves councillor Carol Walsh she has done an amazing job for her residents think what she could do for Blackburn. bow1974

4:15pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bow1974 says...

phil kernot wrote:
So the notion is if you have a record that means you can't change and never be employed again so if these are never given a chance how are thay meant to support themselves , that's a crack pot idea who will keep them supported the dole ,, , people can change and better themselves ,, if thay wanted to ...
Very true phill everyone deserves a chance if they've proved they have changed.
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: So the notion is if you have a record that means you can't change and never be employed again so if these are never given a chance how are thay meant to support themselves , that's a crack pot idea who will keep them supported the dole ,, , people can change and better themselves ,, if thay wanted to ...[/p][/quote]Very true phill everyone deserves a chance if they've proved they have changed. bow1974

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