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600 train fare dodgers caught out in East Lancashire

Chorley Citizen: 600 commuters were caught without tickets last year 600 commuters were caught without tickets last year

MORE than 600 fare-dodgers were snared by rail investigators at stations in East Lancashire during the past year.

And now train operator Northern Rail is fighting back with a clampdown on those looking for a ‘free ride’ on the county’s lines.

Darwen has emerged as East Lancashire’s fare-dodging capital - despite only hosting two services - with 240 cheats caught out in the previous 12 months.

Another 233 were identified travelling from Blackburn, 71 at Accrington, 39 at Burnley Manchester Road, and 10 apiece at Burnley Central and Colne.

Rail sources said Darwen - which only has a vending machine - was possibly the largest offender as most passengers will be travelling to either Blackburn or Manchester, where checks are carried out.

But the county’s biggest rail bandits are in Preston and Central Lancashire - with 339 fare-evaders trapped.

The worst route for dodgers is the Preston to Manchester train, which stops off at Chorley, Buckshaw Parkway and Adlington.

Poster and video campaigns have now been launched by the rail firm under the banner of ‘Get A Ticket’.

One illustrates an unwanted party guest helping himself to a takeaway, and another attempting to take a ‘free ride’ in someone else’s car.

Alex Hynes, Northern’s managing director, said: “We know from talking to our customers they have a real problem when they see others not paying for their journey.

“We don’t want to see passengers get into trouble and want to make sure they understand the implications of taking a free ride.”

The rail operator has installed new electronic ticket machines at the likes of Colne, Darwen and Burnley Manchester Road stations over the past two years.

Ticket checks have been in operation at Blackburn for some time and are occasionally extended to cover Accrington and Nelson.

Mr Hynes said that while smaller stations may not have ticket machines, larger numbers of fare dodgers were caught at locations with open ticket offices and self-service facilities.

Fare dodgers can either be given the option to pay their fare, and an administration charge, or prosecuted before magistrates.

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10:02pm Sat 1 Feb 14

fireonthemountain says...

Well - two little stories for you .

1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back .

There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine .

We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay .

Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there .

Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done .

2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one .

I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) .

No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines .

Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen .

Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope .

Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket .

Pathetic .
Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic . fireonthemountain
  • Score: 26

3:33am Sun 2 Feb 14

Biggy12 says...

Would the train company have to prove a actual loss?,say 20 seats were empty,the train company hasn't lost.
And besides we are not the ones that have sold out an privatised public transport to point you need a second mortgage to travel any distance.
Would the train company have to prove a actual loss?,say 20 seats were empty,the train company hasn't lost. And besides we are not the ones that have sold out an privatised public transport to point you need a second mortgage to travel any distance. Biggy12
  • Score: 1

7:31am Sun 2 Feb 14

Excluded again says...

So Northern Rail don't have enough money to pay people to collect and check tickets, don't have enough money to pay for new trains to service the Todmorden Curve and frequently have to cancel trains because they don't employ enough drivers.

But they always have enough money to pay huge salaries to senior managers and massive dividends to shareholders. And when was the last time you heard of a train being cancelled because the company did not employ enough accountants?

Strange that.
So Northern Rail don't have enough money to pay people to collect and check tickets, don't have enough money to pay for new trains to service the Todmorden Curve and frequently have to cancel trains because they don't employ enough drivers. But they always have enough money to pay huge salaries to senior managers and massive dividends to shareholders. And when was the last time you heard of a train being cancelled because the company did not employ enough accountants? Strange that. Excluded again
  • Score: 20

7:45am Sun 2 Feb 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well - two little stories for you .

1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back .

There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine .

We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay .

Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there .

Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done .

2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one .

I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) .

No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines .

Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen .

Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope .

Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket .

Pathetic .
Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ?
Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash.
If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by.
THEIF
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic .[/p][/quote]Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ? Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash. If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by. THEIF 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: 8

7:48am Sun 2 Feb 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well - two little stories for you .

1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back .

There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine .

We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay .

Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there .

Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done .

2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one .

I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) .

No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines .

Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen .

Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope .

Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket .

Pathetic .
Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ?
Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash.
If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by.
THEIF
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic .[/p][/quote]Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ? Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash. If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by. THEIF 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: -6

9:11am Sun 2 Feb 14

shytalk says...

I never buy a train ticket these days. The trains are always cancelled when i try to travel on them.
I never buy a train ticket these days. The trains are always cancelled when i try to travel on them. shytalk
  • Score: 2

9:20am Sun 2 Feb 14

frank says...

I've been on two trains from Rishton. One didn't appear to have a conductor on so I coldn't pay. I paid on the way back.
Another time the conductor came as I was getting off at my stop. I offered to pay for a return ticket and was told to buy one on the way back. What if I'd got a lift home?
I've been on two trains from Rishton. One didn't appear to have a conductor on so I coldn't pay. I paid on the way back. Another time the conductor came as I was getting off at my stop. I offered to pay for a return ticket and was told to buy one on the way back. What if I'd got a lift home? frank
  • Score: 7

10:24am Sun 2 Feb 14

Chris P Bacon says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
fireonthemountain wrote:
Well - two little stories for you .

1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back .

There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine .

We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay .

Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there .

Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done .

2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one .

I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) .

No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines .

Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen .

Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope .

Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket .

Pathetic .
Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ?
Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash.
If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by.
THEIF
IDOIT.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic .[/p][/quote]Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ? Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash. If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by. THEIF[/p][/quote]IDOIT. Chris P Bacon
  • Score: 10

3:20pm Sun 2 Feb 14

ron1946 says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic .
if it had some hair round it i bet you would have stuck your d**k in it
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic .[/p][/quote]if it had some hair round it i bet you would have stuck your d**k in it ron1946
  • Score: 3

5:21pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Capatain Sensible says...

try to pay when travelling from ramsgreave / wilpshire to clitheroe. most nights not a ticket collector to be seen, despite train being almost empty. I have emailed northern rail three times in 12 months. each time they promise action. nothing happens

next thing is they will increase fairs to cover shortfall!
try to pay when travelling from ramsgreave / wilpshire to clitheroe. most nights not a ticket collector to be seen, despite train being almost empty. I have emailed northern rail three times in 12 months. each time they promise action. nothing happens next thing is they will increase fairs to cover shortfall! Capatain Sensible
  • Score: 5

8:46pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Steven Seagull says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
fireonthemountain wrote:
Well - two little stories for you .

1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back .

There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine .

We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay .

Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there .

Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done .

2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one .

I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) .

No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines .

Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen .

Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope .

Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket .

Pathetic .
Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ?
Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash.
If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by.
THEIF
IDOIT.
Chris, thats being disrespectful to you're average idiot. This oxygen thief is more of a ne'er-do-well.
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic .[/p][/quote]Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ? Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash. If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by. THEIF[/p][/quote]IDOIT.[/p][/quote]Chris, thats being disrespectful to you're average idiot. This oxygen thief is more of a ne'er-do-well. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 1

8:48pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Steven Seagull says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
fireonthemountain wrote:
Well - two little stories for you .

1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back .

There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine .

We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay .

Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there .

Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done .

2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one .

I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) .

No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines .

Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen .

Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope .

Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket .

Pathetic .
Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ?
Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash.
If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by.
THEIF
IDOIT.
Chris, thats being disrespectful to you're average idiot. This oxygen thief is more of a ne'er-do-well.
Your average idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well - two little stories for you . 1 - My wife and I got on at Darwen , travelling to Salford and back . There is absolutly no way are we sticking a debit card into that machine . We'll pay on the train . No we won't there was no one to pay . Allright , we'll pay at Salford . Nope no one there . Hmmm..... free journey . You tell me what I should have done . 2 - Oh you ain't gonna like this one . I have a mate - he gets on at Salford , and gets off at not sure of station's name (I know it's a request stop , near to The Strawberry Duck) . No ticket collectors there , no ticket machines . Goes for a pint or two - stops the train and gets off at Darwen . Anyone collecting tickets at Darwen ? Nope . Nobody checks his non-existant ticket , at any point . If they were to do so . he would correctly say that he was unable to buy a ticket . Pathetic .[/p][/quote]Why is there no way you won't stick your card into the machine, everyone else has to. What makes you special ? Have you ever heard of putting cash in the machine, or do you conveniently turn up to the station without cash. If the conductor caught you stealing your train journey what means would you pay by. THEIF[/p][/quote]IDOIT.[/p][/quote]Chris, thats being disrespectful to you're average idiot. This oxygen thief is more of a ne'er-do-well.[/p][/quote]Your average idiot. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 2

12:25am Mon 3 Feb 14

fireonthemountain says...

Well I have to say that Chris P Bacon wins the all time award
for a totally brilliant put down !!!

To transpose letters deliberately as 2for5p had done out of his
ignorance is sheer genius !!

Showed the wife - we are still chuckling !!

The wife is an English Teacher by the way - this is going viral .

CPB - thank you mate - heroic .

2for5clot - you have lost whatever little credibility you had !
Well I have to say that Chris P Bacon wins the all time award for a totally brilliant put down !!! To transpose letters deliberately as 2for5p had done out of his ignorance is sheer genius !! Showed the wife - we are still chuckling !! The wife is an English Teacher by the way - this is going viral . CPB - thank you mate - heroic . 2for5clot - you have lost whatever little credibility you had ! fireonthemountain
  • Score: 0

8:57am Mon 3 Feb 14

Darren1951 says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well I have to say that Chris P Bacon wins the all time award for a totally brilliant put down !!! To transpose letters deliberately as 2for5p had done out of his ignorance is sheer genius !! Showed the wife - we are still chuckling !! The wife is an English Teacher by the way - this is going viral . CPB - thank you mate - heroic . 2for5clot - you have lost whatever little credibility you had !
I wasn't aware he had any!
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well I have to say that Chris P Bacon wins the all time award for a totally brilliant put down !!! To transpose letters deliberately as 2for5p had done out of his ignorance is sheer genius !! Showed the wife - we are still chuckling !! The wife is an English Teacher by the way - this is going viral . CPB - thank you mate - heroic . 2for5clot - you have lost whatever little credibility you had ![/p][/quote]I wasn't aware he had any! Darren1951
  • Score: 2

9:05am Mon 3 Feb 14

AnthonyUK says...

If you get on at a station with no ticket machine surely the conductor would come and check who got on where and sell train tickets to those who got on at the station without the facilities? You would seem to think so, it'd be the right thing to do.
If you get on at a station with no ticket machine surely the conductor would come and check who got on where and sell train tickets to those who got on at the station without the facilities? You would seem to think so, it'd be the right thing to do. AnthonyUK
  • Score: 3

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