Lancashire public urged to 'think' before heading to A&E

Chorley Citizen: Royal Blackburn Hospital Royal Blackburn Hospital

CHRISTMAS is one of the most demanding times for health services.

Winter health problems coupled with some services shutting over the festive period puts extra pressure on emergency departments and walk-in centres.

To ease the pressure, Clinical Commissioning Groups in Lancashire have launched a ‘Think!’ campaign, to encourage people to think before attending an emergency department or urgent care centre.

An emergency is a critical or a life-threatening situation, such as a suspected heart attack, head injury, or heavy blood loss. But coughs, colds, sore throats, vomiting and other minor ailments do not necessarily require a trip to an urgent care centre. Self-care could often be the first port of call but help and advice can also be sought from a pharmacist, who will advise when a GP visit may be necessary.

David White, GP clinical lead for Burnley, based at St Peter’s Centre, stressed patients should self-care if possible, or choose the most appropriate service for their needs – be that a pharmacy, a walk-in centre, or a GP – before turning up at A&E.

He urged patients with long-term conditions to ensure they are stocked up on medication before the holidays.

He said: “We’d like patients to be able to self-care, or know where to get information to self-care, or if they do need to see a medical service to choose appropriately. And for those who do go to hospital with something more serious, to get them home as soon as they can, or to manage them at home in the first place.”

Sharon Gallagher a ward manager at the Medical Assessment Unit (MAU) at Royal Blackburn Hospital, echoed Dr White’s sentiments. She said: “We will continue to run a service to meet demand, and take a high threshold of patients, regardless of the fact it’s a bank holiday.”

Self-care information can be found at http://www.nhs.uk/, or http:// www.patient.co.uk/.

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5:04pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Dave_P says...

what i want to know is,
1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to?
2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to?
3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?
what i want to know is, 1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to? 2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to? 3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy? Dave_P

5:12pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Fire Fly says...

Dave_P wrote:
what i want to know is,
1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to?
2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to?
3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?
Because too many people are impatient, too many people can't be bothered thinking for themselves. Have a sit in A&E one weekend, all will become very, very clear about who visits A&E.
[quote][p][bold]Dave_P[/bold] wrote: what i want to know is, 1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to? 2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to? 3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?[/p][/quote]Because too many people are impatient, too many people can't be bothered thinking for themselves. Have a sit in A&E one weekend, all will become very, very clear about who visits A&E. Fire Fly

6:28pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mayor07 says...

Dave P, about a third of attendances at A&E and Urgent Care Centre are inappropriate and could have been dealt with elsewhere. It's important the health service continues to get these messages out because it's crippling the NHS. The name of the Emergency Department sort of gives people a clue about what it's for.
Dave P, about a third of attendances at A&E and Urgent Care Centre are inappropriate and could have been dealt with elsewhere. It's important the health service continues to get these messages out because it's crippling the NHS. The name of the Emergency Department sort of gives people a clue about what it's for. mayor07

6:42pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Most people who end up in Hospital these days either seem to die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease, so I can hardly imagine many people wanting to go unless they had little choice. Plus if you smoke you will probably be beating to a pulp by a security guard.
Most people who end up in Hospital these days either seem to die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease, so I can hardly imagine many people wanting to go unless they had little choice. Plus if you smoke you will probably be beating to a pulp by a security guard. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

6:45pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mayor07 says...

Michael, you'll find that most people get a good level of care in hospital. As I said it's well known that a sizeable number of people turn up at hospital unnecessarily.
Michael, you'll find that most people get a good level of care in hospital. As I said it's well known that a sizeable number of people turn up at hospital unnecessarily. mayor07

7:44pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Sajdin says...

Dave_P wrote:
what i want to know is,
1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to?
2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to?
3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?
Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up.
[quote][p][bold]Dave_P[/bold] wrote: what i want to know is, 1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to? 2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to? 3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?[/p][/quote]Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up. Sajdin

7:49pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mavrick says...

I would not turn up at the R.B.H unless I was unconscious and unable to understand what I was doing. As for self treating. People used to do this before the NHS with dire consequences. So my message to the doctors dishing out the advice is simple, pay back the money the NHS has invested in your training and sling your hook, as for the ward manager , perhaps she could find some beds on wards with properly trained full time staff to look after the patients. If people could get appointments with their GP at short notice then perhaps we could shut the walk in centres and many A&E departments, unless of course you could prove you have tried self treatment and your GP won't be available until it is too late. The senior management need to realise this is our NHS and run it in the best interest of the patients. the Public will sort the politicians out.
I would not turn up at the R.B.H unless I was unconscious and unable to understand what I was doing. As for self treating. People used to do this before the NHS with dire consequences. So my message to the doctors dishing out the advice is simple, pay back the money the NHS has invested in your training and sling your hook, as for the ward manager , perhaps she could find some beds on wards with properly trained full time staff to look after the patients. If people could get appointments with their GP at short notice then perhaps we could shut the walk in centres and many A&E departments, unless of course you could prove you have tried self treatment and your GP won't be available until it is too late. The senior management need to realise this is our NHS and run it in the best interest of the patients. the Public will sort the politicians out. mavrick

7:55pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Sajdin says...

mavrick wrote:
I would not turn up at the R.B.H unless I was unconscious and unable to understand what I was doing. As for self treating. People used to do this before the NHS with dire consequences. So my message to the doctors dishing out the advice is simple, pay back the money the NHS has invested in your training and sling your hook, as for the ward manager , perhaps she could find some beds on wards with properly trained full time staff to look after the patients. If people could get appointments with their GP at short notice then perhaps we could shut the walk in centres and many A&E departments, unless of course you could prove you have tried self treatment and your GP won't be available until it is too late. The senior management need to realise this is our NHS and run it in the best interest of the patients. the Public will sort the politicians out.
I was with you until "the Public will sort the politicians out" I just wish we as the public will do this !
[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: I would not turn up at the R.B.H unless I was unconscious and unable to understand what I was doing. As for self treating. People used to do this before the NHS with dire consequences. So my message to the doctors dishing out the advice is simple, pay back the money the NHS has invested in your training and sling your hook, as for the ward manager , perhaps she could find some beds on wards with properly trained full time staff to look after the patients. If people could get appointments with their GP at short notice then perhaps we could shut the walk in centres and many A&E departments, unless of course you could prove you have tried self treatment and your GP won't be available until it is too late. The senior management need to realise this is our NHS and run it in the best interest of the patients. the Public will sort the politicians out.[/p][/quote]I was with you until "the Public will sort the politicians out" I just wish we as the public will do this ! Sajdin

7:57pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mayor07 says...

Yes this is our NHS which is why we must use it appropriately otherwise it will become totally unsustainable and the core principles at the heart of it would unfortunately have to change.
Yes this is our NHS which is why we must use it appropriately otherwise it will become totally unsustainable and the core principles at the heart of it would unfortunately have to change. mayor07

8:40pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Most people who end up in Hospital these days either seem to die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease, so I can hardly imagine many people wanting to go unless they had little choice. Plus if you smoke you will probably be beating to a pulp by a security guard.
I need to make clear I was aiming my remarks at Blackburn Hospital.
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Most people who end up in Hospital these days either seem to die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease, so I can hardly imagine many people wanting to go unless they had little choice. Plus if you smoke you will probably be beating to a pulp by a security guard.[/p][/quote]I need to make clear I was aiming my remarks at Blackburn Hospital. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

8:45pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mayor07 says...

But most at Blackburn hospital don't die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease. Also I haven't heard reports of patients being beaten to a pulp by a security guard. Or have I missed these facts?
But most at Blackburn hospital don't die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease. Also I haven't heard reports of patients being beaten to a pulp by a security guard. Or have I missed these facts? mayor07

8:50pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Sajdin says...

mayor07 wrote:
But most at Blackburn hospital don't die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease. Also I haven't heard reports of patients being beaten to a pulp by a security guard. Or have I missed these facts?
I am confused too.....
[quote][p][bold]mayor07[/bold] wrote: But most at Blackburn hospital don't die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease. Also I haven't heard reports of patients being beaten to a pulp by a security guard. Or have I missed these facts?[/p][/quote]I am confused too..... Sajdin

8:59pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

Sajdin wrote:
mayor07 wrote:
But most at Blackburn hospital don't die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease. Also I haven't heard reports of patients being beaten to a pulp by a security guard. Or have I missed these facts?
I am confused too.....
You don't say!
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mayor07[/bold] wrote: But most at Blackburn hospital don't die on a trolley or come out with some horrible flesh eating disease. Also I haven't heard reports of patients being beaten to a pulp by a security guard. Or have I missed these facts?[/p][/quote]I am confused too.....[/p][/quote]You don't say! Stone Island:

9:51pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.
Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

9:56pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Sajdin says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.
So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.[/p][/quote]So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds. Sajdin

10:03pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin

ce58
wrote:
Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.
So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.
One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.[/p][/quote]So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.[/p][/quote]One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

5:52pm Wed 25 Dec 13

Sajdin says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin


ce58
wrote:
Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.
So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.
One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.
I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views.
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.[/p][/quote]So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.[/p][/quote]One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.[/p][/quote]I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views. Sajdin

7:53pm Wed 25 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin

ce58
wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin



ce58
wrote:
Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.
So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.
One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.
I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views.
Are your just deliberately trying to twist my words on purpose Sajdin? we all know where this PC Nazi stuff comes from, PS even some of the staff smoke.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.[/p][/quote]So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.[/p][/quote]One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.[/p][/quote]I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views.[/p][/quote]Are your just deliberately trying to twist my words on purpose Sajdin? we all know where this PC Nazi stuff comes from, PS even some of the staff smoke. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

10:08pm Wed 25 Dec 13

Sajdin says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin


ce58
wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin




ce58
wrote:
Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.
So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.
One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.
I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views.
Are your just deliberately trying to twist my words on purpose Sajdin? we all know where this PC Nazi stuff comes from, PS even some of the staff smoke.
Well I am sorry for doing so. and yes staff smoke as well, and anyone who is caught on the grounds should be disciplined. If the hospital says no smoking then, no smoking. If you can manage 200 feet from the elevators to the entrance, then go the extra "mile" and walk a further 200 feet and you are "officially" offsite!!!
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.[/p][/quote]So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.[/p][/quote]One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.[/p][/quote]I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views.[/p][/quote]Are your just deliberately trying to twist my words on purpose Sajdin? we all know where this PC Nazi stuff comes from, PS even some of the staff smoke.[/p][/quote]Well I am sorry for doing so. and yes staff smoke as well, and anyone who is caught on the grounds should be disciplined. If the hospital says no smoking then, no smoking. If you can manage 200 feet from the elevators to the entrance, then go the extra "mile" and walk a further 200 feet and you are "officially" offsite!!! Sajdin

10:41pm Wed 25 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin

ce58
wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin



ce58
wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin





ce58
wrote:
Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.
So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.
One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.
I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views.
Are your just deliberately trying to twist my words on purpose Sajdin? we all know where this PC Nazi stuff comes from, PS even some of the staff smoke.
Well I am sorry for doing so. and yes staff smoke as well, and anyone who is caught on the grounds should be disciplined. If the hospital says no smoking then, no smoking. If you can manage 200 feet from the elevators to the entrance, then go the extra "mile" and walk a further 200 feet and you are "officially" offsite!!!
So now you are saying some one that is close to death and only days left on this planet should walk 400 feet dragging his/her life sustaining equipment off site to have that last smoke that they long for before they die from a non smoking illness? when all that was needed was a smoking shelter discreetly hidden from view. Sorry my friend your logic is not the same as mine. PS they would probably then be arrested for stealing hospital equipment as they have taken it off site and then be beaten to a pulp by a security guard.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Google flesh eating disease blackburn hospital and names of the dead will appear, yes soon smoking is to be banned in the hospital grounds and anyone caught will be beaten to death by security guards.[/p][/quote]So one article and you assume it happens all the time? And its about time smoking is banned from Hospital grounds.[/p][/quote]One article? I got 10 pages on Google, It's funny how the Nazis at Blackburn hospital need to punish smokers even ones in their last few days on earth that don't even have smoking related illnesses. But meanwhile in Clitheroe they have put up lovely smoking shelters just for the contractors working on the extension to the new hospital.[/p][/quote]I do not think referring to staff at Blackburn Hospital as Nazi's will do any justice to your views.[/p][/quote]Are your just deliberately trying to twist my words on purpose Sajdin? we all know where this PC Nazi stuff comes from, PS even some of the staff smoke.[/p][/quote]Well I am sorry for doing so. and yes staff smoke as well, and anyone who is caught on the grounds should be disciplined. If the hospital says no smoking then, no smoking. If you can manage 200 feet from the elevators to the entrance, then go the extra "mile" and walk a further 200 feet and you are "officially" offsite!!![/p][/quote]So now you are saying some one that is close to death and only days left on this planet should walk 400 feet dragging his/her life sustaining equipment off site to have that last smoke that they long for before they die from a non smoking illness? when all that was needed was a smoking shelter discreetly hidden from view. Sorry my friend your logic is not the same as mine. PS they would probably then be arrested for stealing hospital equipment as they have taken it off site and then be beaten to a pulp by a security guard. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

9:17am Thu 26 Dec 13

mavrick says...

Sadly the RBH has gained a poor reputation due to underfunding poor management, The EHLT which run several of our hospitals have a great deal to answer for. The new ccG that has taken over the buying of patient services is a corrupt disaster waiting to happen. Many GPs are treating the practice as their own private business, Which needs to be stopped immediately, I pose the question, If you were buying your own health supplier would you choose a Hospital with a good reputation with good outcomes or an ELHT hospital were you chances are much less due to such things like. MRSA or Cdiff or pure neglect due to staff shortages . particularly qualified nursing who have a bit compassion, How many times do we hear of elderly people left without a drink or help to go to a toilet. sorry folks the management of the ELHT needs to get a grip .
Sadly the RBH has gained a poor reputation due to underfunding poor management, The EHLT which run several of our hospitals have a great deal to answer for. The new ccG that has taken over the buying of patient services is a corrupt disaster waiting to happen. Many GPs are treating the practice as their own private business, Which needs to be stopped immediately, I pose the question, If you were buying your own health supplier would you choose a Hospital with a good reputation with good outcomes or an ELHT hospital were you chances are much less due to such things like. MRSA or Cdiff or pure neglect due to staff shortages . particularly qualified nursing who have a bit compassion, How many times do we hear of elderly people left without a drink or help to go to a toilet. sorry folks the management of the ELHT needs to get a grip . mavrick

1:06pm Thu 26 Dec 13

kapalski says...

Sajdin wrote:
Dave_P wrote:
what i want to know is,
1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to?
2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to?
3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?
Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up.
I would like to know what your position is within this trust Sajdin? you seem to be preaching it's all the patients fault all the time!!
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave_P[/bold] wrote: what i want to know is, 1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to? 2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to? 3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?[/p][/quote]Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up.[/p][/quote]I would like to know what your position is within this trust Sajdin? you seem to be preaching it's all the patients fault all the time!! kapalski

1:46pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Sajdin says...

kapalski wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Dave_P wrote:
what i want to know is,
1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to?
2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to?
3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?
Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up.
I would like to know what your position is within this trust Sajdin? you seem to be preaching it's all the patients fault all the time!!
Quite the contrary kaplski, my opinion and always will be, is that we all have a responsibility to look after the NHS. We should all understand when its right and when its not, when deciding to go to A&E or the urgent care centre at burnley.

But the NHS also has a responsibility to continue to educate the communities in living healthy, and also not waste money which can be used on resources, this is not directly on east lancs, but the NHS as a whole. the problems we see here in east lancs, with royal blackburn hospital and burnley hospital, is a problem seen across the country.

if the individuals in society bringing they own demise upon themselves, stopped. Then this would surely free up resources within the NHS to care for those who genuinely need it.
[quote][p][bold]kapalski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave_P[/bold] wrote: what i want to know is, 1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to? 2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to? 3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?[/p][/quote]Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up.[/p][/quote]I would like to know what your position is within this trust Sajdin? you seem to be preaching it's all the patients fault all the time!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary kaplski, my opinion and always will be, is that we all have a responsibility to look after the NHS. We should all understand when its right and when its not, when deciding to go to A&E or the urgent care centre at burnley. But the NHS also has a responsibility to continue to educate the communities in living healthy, and also not waste money which can be used on resources, this is not directly on east lancs, but the NHS as a whole. the problems we see here in east lancs, with royal blackburn hospital and burnley hospital, is a problem seen across the country. if the individuals in society bringing they own demise upon themselves, stopped. Then this would surely free up resources within the NHS to care for those who genuinely need it. Sajdin

1:01am Fri 27 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Sajdin wrote:
kapalski wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Dave_P wrote:
what i want to know is,
1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to?
2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to?
3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?
Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up.
I would like to know what your position is within this trust Sajdin? you seem to be preaching it's all the patients fault all the time!!
Quite the contrary kaplski, my opinion and always will be, is that we all have a responsibility to look after the NHS. We should all understand when its right and when its not, when deciding to go to A&E or the urgent care centre at burnley.

But the NHS also has a responsibility to continue to educate the communities in living healthy, and also not waste money which can be used on resources, this is not directly on east lancs, but the NHS as a whole. the problems we see here in east lancs, with royal blackburn hospital and burnley hospital, is a problem seen across the country.

if the individuals in society bringing they own demise upon themselves, stopped. Then this would surely free up resources within the NHS to care for those who genuinely need it.
I don't think you answered anything Sajdin, I think you played with words, yes I agree you should only go to A&E only if you really have to but try and get to see a doctor these days it's almost impossible, we only go to A&E if we have no other choice to be honest in my case if it means a trip to Blackburn I would prefer to let nature take its course as I feel I have a batter chance of survival. I would just like to take this opportunity to thank all at Burnley Hospital who have removed metal from my eye on two occasions recently an occupational hazard but but dealt with swiftly and professionally thanks :)
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kapalski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave_P[/bold] wrote: what i want to know is, 1) who the hell goes to hospital unless they really think they need to? 2) why would anyone want to go to hospital without needing to? 3) why would anyone want to spend 4 hrs or more sitting around waiting, in a most depressing atmosphere, where they could catch anything or slowly go stir-crazy?[/p][/quote]Are you being serious. just sit in A&E for a while and you will see where the resources are going. Go on a Friday night and you will see where the waster hours are used up.[/p][/quote]I would like to know what your position is within this trust Sajdin? you seem to be preaching it's all the patients fault all the time!![/p][/quote]Quite the contrary kaplski, my opinion and always will be, is that we all have a responsibility to look after the NHS. We should all understand when its right and when its not, when deciding to go to A&E or the urgent care centre at burnley. But the NHS also has a responsibility to continue to educate the communities in living healthy, and also not waste money which can be used on resources, this is not directly on east lancs, but the NHS as a whole. the problems we see here in east lancs, with royal blackburn hospital and burnley hospital, is a problem seen across the country. if the individuals in society bringing they own demise upon themselves, stopped. Then this would surely free up resources within the NHS to care for those who genuinely need it.[/p][/quote]I don't think you answered anything Sajdin, I think you played with words, yes I agree you should only go to A&E only if you really have to but try and get to see a doctor these days it's almost impossible, we only go to A&E if we have no other choice to be honest in my case if it means a trip to Blackburn I would prefer to let nature take its course as I feel I have a batter chance of survival. I would just like to take this opportunity to thank all at Burnley Hospital who have removed metal from my eye on two occasions recently an occupational hazard but but dealt with swiftly and professionally thanks :) Michael@ClitheroeSince58

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