East Lancashire health bosses to recruit European nurses due to shortage of British nurses

Chorley Citizen: HR director Ian Brandwood HR director Ian Brandwood

BOSSES will look to recruit more European staff to the Royal Blackburn and Burnley General hospitals, in a bid to head off a shortage of British nurses.

Earlier in the summer, the government-backed Centre for Workforce Intelligence predicted the NHS was likely to have 47,500 fewer nurses than it needed by 2016.

In anticipation of the problems, Ian Brandwood, human resources director at East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust, said he was preparing to launch an overseas recruitment drive.

Several hospital trusts have looked to Portugal and Ireland to fill gaps in their workforce in the past year, and Mr Brandwood added: “We need to make sure we are going to the appropriate European venues.”

The move comes as a national survey by the Royal College of Nurses found nearly two-thirds had considered quitting their jobs in the past 12 months due to stress.

A total of 61 per cent of nurses questioned felt unable to give patients the care they would want to because they were too busy, while 83 per cent believed their workload had increased in the past 12 months due to staff cuts.

Nurses have also had a pay freeze between 2010 and 2012. At a board meeting last week, non-executive director Paul Fletcher asked what the trust was doing to keep its staff. Mr Brandwood said nurses could retire on full pension benefits aged 55, which made it difficult to keep them. But he added: “There’s no evidence to suggest staff are leaving the organisation now in any significant numbers, other than to seek promotion at other organisations.”

Jonathan Bowker, of the Royal College of Nursing Lancashire East office, said: “Overseas recruitment is becoming increasingly common within the area. The RCN would rather we were able to meet demand with homegrown nurses. We are very concerned that planning has been such that we are in this position .”

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4:19pm Tue 3 Sep 13

happycyclist says...

I simply don't believe that enough British nurses can't be found to fill the vacancies in British hospitals.
I simply don't believe that enough British nurses can't be found to fill the vacancies in British hospitals. happycyclist

4:42pm Tue 3 Sep 13

Briantodd says...

I do hope they will be careful in appointing foreign staff.
Even very well qualified staff sometimes leaves a lot to be desired in their use of the English language.
Particularly for older people it can be difficult if their medical practitioner can not fully understand local idioms and accents.
Their medial skills may be excellent but if patients can not understand and are embarrassed about making this clear mishaps can occur.
I do hope they will be careful in appointing foreign staff. Even very well qualified staff sometimes leaves a lot to be desired in their use of the English language. Particularly for older people it can be difficult if their medical practitioner can not fully understand local idioms and accents. Their medial skills may be excellent but if patients can not understand and are embarrassed about making this clear mishaps can occur. Briantodd

6:10pm Tue 3 Sep 13

Sajdin says...

happycyclist wrote:
I simply don't believe that enough British nurses can't be found to fill the vacancies in British hospitals.
You try? The Trust wouldn't spend thousands in going abroad if it didn't have to.

And yes agreed, lets hope English language is at the forefront.
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: I simply don't believe that enough British nurses can't be found to fill the vacancies in British hospitals.[/p][/quote]You try? The Trust wouldn't spend thousands in going abroad if it didn't have to. And yes agreed, lets hope English language is at the forefront. Sajdin

6:32pm Tue 3 Sep 13

GAC says...

maybe they should train some then rather than trying to find fully qualified staff !!!!
maybe they should train some then rather than trying to find fully qualified staff !!!! GAC

7:42pm Tue 3 Sep 13

just_me_again says...

All newly qualified nurses can't even a preceptorship or a job due to lack of preceptorship.....th
is is an absolute disgraceful waste of training for 3 years and having a 2:1 classification in BSc Hons in Mental Health Nursing.

How do I know? I'm one and I'm disgusted at this...my cohort of 300 highly qualified newly qualified nurses all from local uni's aren't very happy either.
All newly qualified nurses can't even a preceptorship or a job due to lack of preceptorship.....th is is an absolute disgraceful waste of training for 3 years and having a 2:1 classification in BSc Hons in Mental Health Nursing. How do I know? I'm one and I'm disgusted at this...my cohort of 300 highly qualified newly qualified nurses all from local uni's aren't very happy either. just_me_again

7:43pm Tue 3 Sep 13

mavrick says...

There is enough nurses already trained in this country, It is people like Ian Brandwood that made life so unbearable for them they took the easy way out, The management of the trust needs to be changed from the top down, It is blatantly obvious they are incompetent. Then MPs in the area should visit the hospitals and experience the real problems, I don't mean an escorted tour by the senior management, This shambles goes from bad to worse. Why are the senior managers who got us into this mess still in office?
There is enough nurses already trained in this country, It is people like Ian Brandwood that made life so unbearable for them they took the easy way out, The management of the trust needs to be changed from the top down, It is blatantly obvious they are incompetent. Then MPs in the area should visit the hospitals and experience the real problems, I don't mean an escorted tour by the senior management, This shambles goes from bad to worse. Why are the senior managers who got us into this mess still in office? mavrick

9:24pm Tue 3 Sep 13

Copperhead says...

There are plenty of qualified nurses who are UK trained, but, having a nurse-practioner in my family, I am told there are two very substantial reasons for the shortage of nurses .
Firstly, the hospitals are not run for the benefit of patients - or so I am told by my relative with 20 yrs NHS service - nor are they run for the benefit of the medical staff. Thanks to NuLabour, hospitals are now the personal fiefdoms of the NHS managers - and they are only interested in their personal advancement and the opportunities they can enjoy in the private sector after taking early retirement from the NHS with massive pensions and huge golden-handshakes. Needless to say, these " managers " ensure that their private sector future paymasters enjoy tremendous business from the NHS whilst their future employees are still employed by the NHS.
The second reason for British nurses leaving the NHS is that they are leaving the UK.
Apart from the crap weather, over-crowding, low-wages, high cost of living, housing, fuel, food and just about everything else, they are sick of the relentless decline of British society caused by unchecked immigration.
These are the reasons that her colleagues have left the UK - as told to me by my sister.
There are plenty of qualified nurses who are UK trained, but, having a nurse-practioner in my family, I am told there are two very substantial reasons for the shortage of nurses . Firstly, the hospitals are not run for the benefit of patients - or so I am told by my relative with 20 yrs NHS service - nor are they run for the benefit of the medical staff. Thanks to NuLabour, hospitals are now the personal fiefdoms of the NHS managers - and they are only interested in their personal advancement and the opportunities they can enjoy in the private sector after taking early retirement from the NHS with massive pensions and huge golden-handshakes. Needless to say, these " managers " ensure that their private sector future paymasters enjoy tremendous business from the NHS whilst their future employees are still employed by the NHS. The second reason for British nurses leaving the NHS is that they are leaving the UK. Apart from the crap weather, over-crowding, low-wages, high cost of living, housing, fuel, food and just about everything else, they are sick of the relentless decline of British society caused by unchecked immigration. These are the reasons that her colleagues have left the UK - as told to me by my sister. Copperhead

10:45pm Tue 3 Sep 13

Fire Fly says...

Sajdin wrote:
happycyclist wrote:
I simply don't believe that enough British nurses can't be found to fill the vacancies in British hospitals.
You try? The Trust wouldn't spend thousands in going abroad if it didn't have to.

And yes agreed, lets hope English language is at the forefront.
Happycyclist is absolutely right...2yrs ago 70+ nurses graduated from UCLAN & not one of them could find a job due to recruitment freezes within the NHS. Same goes for Occupational therapists...end of the day, they recruit from abroad because it means they recruit ready trained clinical staff so no training costs for the NHS which equals cheap as chips & so is the care in most cases.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: I simply don't believe that enough British nurses can't be found to fill the vacancies in British hospitals.[/p][/quote]You try? The Trust wouldn't spend thousands in going abroad if it didn't have to. And yes agreed, lets hope English language is at the forefront.[/p][/quote]Happycyclist is absolutely right...2yrs ago 70+ nurses graduated from UCLAN & not one of them could find a job due to recruitment freezes within the NHS. Same goes for Occupational therapists...end of the day, they recruit from abroad because it means they recruit ready trained clinical staff so no training costs for the NHS which equals cheap as chips & so is the care in most cases. Fire Fly

12:26am Wed 4 Sep 13

nodachi68 says...

What a load of poppycock. I have never head such dribble from a human. Are these EU nurses going to go to work for you for nothing ?. Why are the nurses numbers down in our hospitals?maybe it because of the cutbacks that we have that our nurses running around like headless politicians. They are doing the jobs of your future employed EU nurses now and for the wage they are on now. Are you just going to create these jobs ? well create them now and the nurses will come and they will come from the UK
What a load of poppycock. I have never head such dribble from a human. Are these EU nurses going to go to work for you for nothing ?. Why are the nurses numbers down in our hospitals?maybe it because of the cutbacks that we have that our nurses running around like headless politicians. They are doing the jobs of your future employed EU nurses now and for the wage they are on now. Are you just going to create these jobs ? well create them now and the nurses will come and they will come from the UK nodachi68

9:37am Wed 4 Sep 13

Excluded again says...

Squeeze NHS budgets so that experienced nurses are driven out. Make sure that there is not enough money to take on newly qualified nurses who need support and training. Leave the NHS with little option but to go abroad for experienced nurses who will work at a higher level from day one. Pay benefits to the newly qualified UK nurses who can't get a job.

Tell people this is about bringing down the deficit and we are all in this together. Hope that they are daft enough to believe you.
Squeeze NHS budgets so that experienced nurses are driven out. Make sure that there is not enough money to take on newly qualified nurses who need support and training. Leave the NHS with little option but to go abroad for experienced nurses who will work at a higher level from day one. Pay benefits to the newly qualified UK nurses who can't get a job. Tell people this is about bringing down the deficit and we are all in this together. Hope that they are daft enough to believe you. Excluded again

6:12pm Wed 4 Sep 13

Mr Blunt says...

WHY IS IAN BRANDWOOD STILL IN A JOB!!! ANOTHER INCOMPETENT AT THE TOP!!! HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HR DIRECTOR BUT HE DOESNT SEEM TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT HIS HEAD OUT OF HIS AR_E!!!
WHY IS IAN BRANDWOOD STILL IN A JOB!!! ANOTHER INCOMPETENT AT THE TOP!!! HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HR DIRECTOR BUT HE DOESNT SEEM TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT HIS HEAD OUT OF HIS AR_E!!! Mr Blunt

6:18pm Wed 4 Sep 13

Mr Blunt says...

mavrick wrote:
There is enough nurses already trained in this country, It is people like Ian Brandwood that made life so unbearable for them they took the easy way out, The management of the trust needs to be changed from the top down, It is blatantly obvious they are incompetent. Then MPs in the area should visit the hospitals and experience the real problems, I don't mean an escorted tour by the senior management, This shambles goes from bad to worse. Why are the senior managers who got us into this mess still in office?
Couldn't agree more!!
[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: There is enough nurses already trained in this country, It is people like Ian Brandwood that made life so unbearable for them they took the easy way out, The management of the trust needs to be changed from the top down, It is blatantly obvious they are incompetent. Then MPs in the area should visit the hospitals and experience the real problems, I don't mean an escorted tour by the senior management, This shambles goes from bad to worse. Why are the senior managers who got us into this mess still in office?[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more!! Mr Blunt

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